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Peter Singer: Suffering in Humans, Animals, and AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #107

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Peter Singer is a professor of bioethics at Princeton, best known for his 1975 book Animal Liberation, that makes an ethical case against eating meat. He has written brilliantly from an ethical perspective on extreme poverty, euthanasia, human genetic selection, sports doping, the sale of kidneys, and happiness including in his books Ethics in the Real World and The Life You Can Save. He was a key popularizer of the effective altruism movement and is generally considered one of the most influential philosophers in the world. Support this podcast by signing up with these sponsors: - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex - Cash App - use code "LexPodcast" and download: - Cash App (App Store): https://apple.co/2sPrUHe - Cash App (Google Play): https://bit.ly/2MlvP5w EPISODE LINKS: Peter's Website: https://petersinger.info/ Peter's Twitter: https://twitter.com/PeterSinger Books: - The Life You Can Save: https://www.thelifeyoucansave.org/the-book/ - Ethics in the Real World: https://amzn.to/2BPje8x - Animal Liberation: https://amzn.to/2VSZLuv - The Most Good You Can Do: https://amzn.to/2CjDheZ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 5:25 - World War II 9:53 - Suffering 16:06 - Is everyone capable of evil? 21:52 - Can robots suffer? 37:22 - Animal liberation 40:31 - Question for AI about suffering 43:32 - Neuralink 45:11 - Control problem of AI 51:08 - Utilitarianism 59:43 - Helping people in poverty 1:05:15 - Mortality CONNECT: - Subscribe to this YouTube channel - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman

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{'title': 'Peter Singer: Suffering in Humans, Animals, and AI | Lex Fridman Podcast #107', 'heatmap': [{'end': 2831.394, 'start': 2779.62, 'weight': 1}], 'summary': "Renowned bioethics professor peter singer's influential work on animal liberation and effective altruism, ethical meat consumption, and open-minded discourse is explored, along with discussions on the impact of world war ii, human nature and moral dilemmas, robot rights and consciousness, ethical implications of granting rights to robots and animals, pain and consciousness in robots, animal liberation and rights, ai control problem and utilitarianism, ethical decision-making, and effective altruism.", 'chapters': [{'end': 323.769, 'segs': [{'end': 32.122, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 0.069, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 6.275, 'text': 'The following is a conversation with Peter Singer, professor of bioethics at Princeton University,', 'start': 0.069, 'duration': 6.206}, {'end': 13.161, 'text': 'best known for his 1975 book Animal Liberation that makes an ethical case against eating meat.', 'start': 6.275, 'duration': 6.886}, {'end': 22.714, 'text': 'He has written brilliantly from an ethical perspective, on extreme poverty, euthanasia, human genetic selection, sports, doping,', 'start': 14.346, 'duration': 8.368}, {'end': 32.122, 'text': 'the sale of kidneys and generally happiness, including in his books Ethics in the Real World and The Life You Can Save.', 'start': 22.714, 'duration': 9.408}], 'summary': 'Peter singer, bioethics professor at princeton, renowned for ethical writings on various topics.', 'duration': 32.053, 'max_score': 0.069, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs69.jpg'}, {'end': 69.74, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 47.127, 'weight': 3, 'content': [{'end': 55.333, 'text': 'Please consider supporting the podcast by downloading Cash App and using code LexPodcast and signing up at masterclass.com slash Lex.', 'start': 47.127, 'duration': 8.206}, {'end': 57.475, 'text': 'Click the links, buy the stuff.', 'start': 56.014, 'duration': 1.461}, {'end': 61.657, 'text': "It really is the best way to support the podcast and the journey I'm on.", 'start': 57.955, 'duration': 3.702}, {'end': 69.74, 'text': 'As you may know, I primarily eat a ketogenic or carnivore diet, which means that most of my diet is made up of meat.', 'start': 62.518, 'duration': 7.222}], 'summary': 'Support the podcast by using code lexpodcast and signing up at masterclass.com/ lex to primarily eat a ketogenic or carnivore diet.', 'duration': 22.613, 'max_score': 47.127, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs47127.jpg'}, {'end': 140.904, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 116.249, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 122.553, 'text': "I return to Peter's work often to reevaluate the ethics of how I live this aspect of my life.", 'start': 116.249, 'duration': 6.304}, {'end': 131.438, 'text': 'Let me also say that you may be a vegan or you may be a meat eater and may be upset by the words I say, or Peter says,', 'start': 123.433, 'duration': 8.005}, {'end': 137.181, 'text': 'but I ask for this podcast and other episodes of this podcast that you keep an open mind.', 'start': 131.438, 'duration': 5.743}, {'end': 140.904, 'text': 'I may and probably will talk with people you disagree with.', 'start': 138.422, 'duration': 2.482}], 'summary': 'Podcast encourages open-mindedness on differing views of veganism and meat-eating.', 'duration': 24.655, 'max_score': 116.249, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs116249.jpg'}, {'end': 232.919, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 209.56, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 216.926, 'text': 'Since Cash App allows you to buy Bitcoin, let me mention that cryptocurrency in the context of the history of money is fascinating.', 'start': 209.56, 'duration': 7.366}, {'end': 220.909, 'text': 'I recommend Ascent of Money as a great book on this history.', 'start': 217.487, 'duration': 3.422}, {'end': 225.493, 'text': 'Debits and credits on ledgers started around 30,000 years ago,', 'start': 221.53, 'duration': 3.963}, {'end': 232.919, 'text': 'the US dollar created over 200 years ago and the first decentralized cryptocurrency released just over 10 years ago.', 'start': 225.493, 'duration': 7.426}], 'summary': 'Cash app allows bitcoin purchase; 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Highlights the early stages of cryptocurrency and its potential to redefine the nature of money, mentioning the history of money and the potential impact of cryptocurrency on the future.', 'Benefits of Masterclass and its diverse course offerings. 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'text': 'Or do we want to achieve a kind of minimum threshold of suffering and then keeping a little drop of poison to keep things interesting in the world?', 'start': 689.883, 'duration': 15.955}, {'end': 710.079, 'text': "In practice, I don't think we ever will eliminate suffering.", 'start': 707.358, 'duration': 2.721}], 'summary': 'Is it possible to eradicate suffering? unlikely, according to the conversation.', 'duration': 31.262, 'max_score': 678.817, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs678817.jpg'}, {'end': 840.939, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 817.088, 'weight': 6, 'content': [{'end': 823.524, 'text': 'But it may also be true that if you do get rid of that and you get to the stage where all of those basic needs have been met,', 'start': 817.088, 'duration': 6.436}, {'end': 828.497, 'text': 'there may still be then new forms of suffering that develop.', 'start': 825.236, 'duration': 3.261}, {'end': 835.458, 'text': "And perhaps that's what we're seeing in the affluent societies we have, that people get bored, for example.", 'start': 829.197, 'duration': 6.261}, {'end': 840.939, 'text': "They don't need to spend so many hours a day earning money to get enough to eat and shelter.", 'start': 835.658, 'duration': 5.281}], 'summary': 'Meeting basic needs may not eliminate suffering; affluent societies face new issues like boredom.', 'duration': 23.851, 'max_score': 817.088, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs817088.jpg'}, {'end': 949.034, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 924.131, 'weight': 7, 'content': [{'end': 929.235, 'text': 'So it may be that suffering makes us more creative and we regard that as worthwhile.', 'start': 924.131, 'duration': 5.104}, {'end': 935.759, 'text': "Maybe that brings some of those highs with it that we would not have had if we'd had no suffering.", 'start': 929.855, 'duration': 5.904}, {'end': 937.64, 'text': "I don't really know.", 'start': 936.98, 'duration': 0.66}, {'end': 942.824, 'text': "Many people have suggested that and I certainly can't have no basis for denying it.", 'start': 937.761, 'duration': 5.063}, {'end': 949.034, 'text': "And if it's true, then I would not want to eliminate suffering completely.", 'start': 944.846, 'duration': 4.188}], 'summary': 'Suffering may enhance creativity and bring unique experiences, influencing value perception.', 'duration': 24.903, 'max_score': 924.131, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs924131.jpg'}], 'start': 325.15, 'title': 'The impact of world war ii', 'summary': "Discusses early awareness of suffering in the holocaust, cultural impact of world war ii in soviet union, and the beneficial impact of the war in highlighting consequences of racism and authoritarian government. it also reflects on war's impact on childhood, ethical aspects of suffering, and the possibility of eradicating suffering, emphasizing relative and absolute nature of poverty and suffering.", 'chapters': [{'end': 401.103, 'start': 325.15, 'title': 'Impact of world war ii', 'summary': 'Discusses the early awareness of suffering due to family history in the holocaust, the deep cultural impact of world war ii in soviet union, and the beneficial impact of the war in highlighting the consequences of racism and authoritarian government on society.', 'duration': 75.953, 'highlights': ['The chapter discusses early awareness of suffering due to family history in the Holocaust, the deep cultural impact of World War II in Soviet Union, and the beneficial impact of the war in highlighting the consequences of racism and authoritarian government on society.', 'The speaker became conscious of the suffering in the world early due to losing three of four grandparents in the Holocaust, with one grandparent surviving the camps.', 'The impact of World War II is deeply rooted in the culture and suffering brought by the war is reflected in music, literature, and overall society.', 'The war had a beneficial impact in showing the consequences of racism and authoritarian government on society.']}, {'end': 949.034, 'start': 401.103, 'title': 'Reflections on war, suffering, and ethics', 'summary': 'Discusses the impact of war on childhood, the ethical aspects of suffering, and the possibility of eradicating suffering, emphasizing the relative and absolute nature of poverty and suffering.', 'duration': 547.931, 'highlights': ["War's impact on childhood The overshadowing of childhood by the fear of a catastrophic nuclear war and the legacies of the war, including the setup of the world and the Cold War, are discussed.", 'Ethical aspects of suffering The discussion on the conscious state of suffering, its potential positive consequences, and the consideration of eradicating suffering are explored.', 'Relative and absolute nature of poverty and suffering The notion of both objective and relative suffering, including the emergence of new forms of suffering in affluent societies after meeting basic needs, is examined.', 'Suffering as a creative force The consideration of suffering as a potential creative force and its role in experiencing the highs is pondered upon.']}], 'duration': 623.884, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs325150.jpg', 'highlights': ['The impact of World War II is deeply rooted in the culture and suffering brought by the war is reflected in music, literature, and overall society.', 'The war had a beneficial impact in showing the consequences of racism and authoritarian government on society.', 'The speaker became conscious of the suffering in the world early due to losing three of four grandparents in the Holocaust, with one grandparent surviving the camps.', 'The chapter discusses early awareness of suffering due to family history in the Holocaust, the deep cultural impact of World War II in Soviet Union, and the beneficial impact of the war in highlighting the consequences of racism and authoritarian government on society.', 'The overshadowing of childhood by the fear of a catastrophic nuclear war and the legacies of the war, including the setup of the world and the Cold War, are discussed.', 'The discussion on the conscious state of suffering, its potential positive consequences, and the consideration of eradicating suffering are explored.', 'The notion of both objective and relative suffering, including the emergence of new forms of suffering in affluent societies after meeting basic needs, is examined.', 'The consideration of suffering as a potential creative force and its role in experiencing the highs is pondered upon.']}, {'end': 1317.593, 'segs': [{'end': 1005.696, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 977.481, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 980.783, 'text': 'Certainly most of us have potential for both good and evil.', 'start': 977.481, 'duration': 3.302}, {'end': 984.024, 'text': "I'm not prepared to say that everyone is capable of evil,", 'start': 981.543, 'duration': 2.481}, {'end': 989.087, 'text': 'that maybe some people who are even in the worst of circumstances would not be capable of it,', 'start': 984.024, 'duration': 5.063}, {'end': 993.709, 'text': 'but most of us are very susceptible to environmental influences.', 'start': 989.087, 'duration': 4.622}, {'end': 997.892, 'text': 'So, when we look at things that we were talking about previously,', 'start': 994.57, 'duration': 3.322}, {'end': 1005.696, 'text': "let's say what the Nazis did during the Holocaust I think it's quite difficult to say.", 'start': 997.892, 'duration': 7.804}], 'summary': 'Most people are susceptible to environmental influences, making them potentially capable of both good and evil.', 'duration': 28.215, 'max_score': 977.481, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs977481.jpg'}, {'end': 1116.046, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1094.064, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 1104.602, 'text': 'There obviously is quite a bit of research on people during the Holocaust on how ordinary Germans got led to do terrible things.', 'start': 1094.064, 'duration': 10.538}, {'end': 1112.404, 'text': 'And there are also studies of the resistance some heroic people in the White Rose group, for example,', 'start': 1105.062, 'duration': 7.342}, {'end': 1116.046, 'text': 'who resisted even though they knew they were likely to die for it.', 'start': 1112.404, 'duration': 3.642}], 'summary': 'Research on ordinary germans during the holocaust and resistance by the white rose group.', 'duration': 21.982, 'max_score': 1094.064, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs1094064.jpg'}, {'end': 1222.089, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1190.103, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 1193.325, 'text': 'it seems easier to put yourself back in history,', 'start': 1190.103, 'duration': 3.222}, {'end': 1200.889, 'text': 'where you can sort of objectively contemplate whether how willing you are to do the right thing when the cost is high.', 'start': 1193.325, 'duration': 7.564}, {'end': 1209.98, 'text': 'true, but I think we do face those challenges today and I think we can still ask ourselves those questions.', 'start': 1203.015, 'duration': 6.965}, {'end': 1216.325, 'text': 'so one stand that I took more than 40 years ago now was to stop eating meat, become a vegetarian,', 'start': 1209.98, 'duration': 6.345}, {'end': 1222.089, 'text': 'at a time when you hardly met anybody who was a vegetarian or if you did,', 'start': 1216.325, 'duration': 5.764}], 'summary': 'Chose vegetarianism despite rarity, prompting introspection on moral decisions.', 'duration': 31.986, 'max_score': 1190.103, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs1190103.jpg'}], 'start': 950.917, 'title': 'Human nature and moral dilemmas', 'summary': 'Explores human potential for good and evil, and the ability of individuals to take a stand against societal pressures, drawing parallels to historical events and contemporary issues. it discusses environmental influences on human behavior and resistance to societal pressures.', 'chapters': [{'end': 997.892, 'start': 950.917, 'title': 'Human nature and environmental influence', 'summary': 'Discusses the inherent potential for good and evil in people, noting that most are susceptible to environmental influences.', 'duration': 46.975, 'highlights': ['Most people have potential for both good and evil, with susceptibility to environmental influences.', 'Not everyone may be capable of evil, even in the worst of circumstances.']}, {'end': 1317.593, 'start': 997.892, 'title': 'Moral dilemmas and taking a stand', 'summary': 'Discusses the moral dilemma of individuals being able to resist societal pressures and take a stand for what is right, drawing parallels between historical examples such as the holocaust and contemporary issues like climate change and global poverty.', 'duration': 319.701, 'highlights': ['The difficulty of resisting societal pressures and taking a stand for what is right is discussed, drawing parallels between historical examples, such as the Holocaust, and contemporary issues like climate change and global poverty. The chapter delves into the moral dilemma of individuals being able to resist societal pressures and take a stand for what is right, drawing parallels between historical examples such as the Holocaust and contemporary issues like climate change and global poverty.', 'Discussion on the moral implications of being able to resist societal pressures and take a stand for what is objectively good, and the challenges faced in making such decisions, as exemplified by the decision to stop eating meat and taking a stance on global poverty and climate change. The chapter also discusses the moral implications of being able to resist societal pressures and take a stand for what is objectively good, and the challenges faced in making such decisions, as exemplified by the decision to stop eating meat and taking a stance on global poverty and climate change.', "Reference to historical examples, such as the White Rose group's resistance during World War II, and the moral dilemma of individuals being willing to do the right thing when the cost is high, leading to a discussion on the challenges faced in contemporary times. 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War II, and the moral dilemma of individuals being willing to do the right thing when the cost is high."]}, {'end': 1583.054, 'segs': [{'end': 1402.119, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1378.086, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 1385.071, 'text': 'But is it true that every being that is conscious will suffer or has to be capable of suffering?', 'start': 1378.086, 'duration': 6.985}, {'end': 1393.197, 'text': "I suppose you could imagine a kind of consciousness, especially if we can construct it artificially, that's capable of experiencing pleasure.", 'start': 1385.451, 'duration': 7.746}, {'end': 1397.918, 'text': "but just automatically cuts out the consciousness when they're suffering.", 'start': 1393.937, 'duration': 3.981}, {'end': 1402.119, 'text': 'Sort of like instant anesthesia as soon as something is going to cause you suffering.', 'start': 1398.278, 'duration': 3.841}], 'summary': 'Not all conscious beings have to suffer; artificial consciousness can experience pleasure and avoid 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'text': 'wrote a book called The Concept of Mind, in which, in this kind of phase this is in the 40s of linguistic philosophy he said well,', 'start': 1826.42, 'duration': 10.045}, {'end': 1838.746, 'text': 'the meaning of a term is its use.', 'start': 1836.465, 'duration': 2.281}, {'end': 1846.609, 'text': 'And we use terms like so and so is in pain when we see somebody writhing or screaming or trying to escape some stimulus.', 'start': 1839.046, 'duration': 7.563}, {'end': 1848.429, 'text': "that's the meaning of the term.", 'start': 1847.289, 'duration': 1.14}, {'end': 1850.75, 'text': "so that's what it is to be in pain.", 'start': 1848.429, 'duration': 2.321}], 'summary': "Ryle's 'the concept of mind' defines meaning through use of terms, like 'being in pain' when seeing certain behaviors.", 'duration': 24.33, 'max_score': 1826.42, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs1826420.jpg'}], 'start': 1583.054, 'title': 'The ethical implications of granting rights to robots and animals', 'summary': 'Delves into ethical considerations of granting rights to robots and animals, focusing on their mimicry of consciousness and suffering, and its potential impact on human behavior and moral obligations.', 'chapters': [{'end': 1878.984, 'start': 1583.054, 'title': 'Rights of robots and animals', 'summary': 'Discusses the ethical implications of granting rights to robots and animals based on their ability to mimic consciousness and suffering, drawing parallels between the two and the potential impact on human behavior and moral obligations.', 'duration': 295.93, 'highlights': ['The potential need to grant rights to robots and animals as they mimic consciousness may harden humans against other beings who truly suffer, leading to a lack of compassion and rights for non-robotic, suffering beings. This highlights the ethical dilemma of granting rights to robots and animals based on their ability to mimic consciousness, and the potential impact on human behavior and moral obligations.', 'The argument for not being cruel to animals is based on inflicting suffering, while some philosophers also stressed the negative impact on human disposition, suggesting a similar argument could apply to robots mimicking pain. This emphasizes the basis for not being cruel to animals and the potential application of a similar argument to robots mimicking pain, reflecting on the ethical considerations for both entities.', "The discussion of behaviorism in philosophy, where the meaning of terms like 'pain' and 'dream' is linked to observable behavior, raises questions about the perception and attribution of consciousness and experiences to non-human entities. 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'Exploring the discomfort with robot suffering and the possibility of consciousness emerging from behavior.', 'duration': 32.617, 'max_score': 2056.46, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs2056460.jpg'}, {'end': 2124.339, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2096.286, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 2104.25, 'text': 'The program does generate a kind of artificial general intelligence which is autonomous, you know,', 'start': 2096.286, 'duration': 7.964}, {'end': 2109.432, 'text': 'starts to do things itself and is autonomous of the basics programming that set it up.', 'start': 2104.25, 'duration': 5.182}, {'end': 2117.916, 'text': "And so it's quite possible that actually we have achieved consciousness in a system of artificial intelligence.", 'start': 2110.472, 'duration': 7.444}, {'end': 2124.339, 'text': 'Sort of the approach that I work with, most of the community is really excited about now is with learning methods.', 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regardless of species or race.', 'duration': 25.332, 'max_score': 2397.958, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs2397958.jpg'}, {'end': 2479.775, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2446.49, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 2458.334, 'text': 'If we do create an AGI system or, As we approach creating that AGI system, what kind of questions would you ask her to try to,', 'start': 2446.49, 'duration': 11.844}, {'end': 2469.141, 'text': "to try to intuit whether, whether there is consciousness, whether, or, more importantly, whether there's capacity to suffer?", 'start': 2458.334, 'duration': 10.807}, {'end': 2477.573, 'text': 'I might ask the AGI what she was feeling.', 'start': 2472.93, 'duration': 4.643}, {'end': 2479.775, 'text': 'Well, does she have feelings?', 'start': 2478.734, 'duration': 1.041}], 'summary': 'Exploring questioning agi for consciousness and capacity to suffer.', 'duration': 33.285, 'max_score': 2446.49, 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emphasized.", 'The bias against considering the interests of animals is compared to historical prejudices such as racism and sexism, leading to unjust treatment of animals in various aspects of human activities.', 'The significance of pain and suffering is emphasized, advocating for the reevaluation of animal treatment based on the equality of pain and suffering regardless of the species.', 'The concept of consciousness in artificial intelligence is explored, discussing potential questions to assess consciousness and capacity to suffer in AGI systems.']}, {'end': 3283.537, 'segs': [{'end': 2779.14, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2739.352, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 2741.996, 'text': "Presumably it's possible to do that.", 'start': 2739.352, 'duration': 2.644}, {'end': 2751.73, 'text': "I know that a lot of people who think that there's a real danger that we won't, that we'll more or less accidentally lose control of AGI.", 'start': 2743.999, 'duration': 7.731}, {'end': 2758.094, 'text': "Do you have that fear yourself personally? I'm not quite sure what to think.", 'start': 2751.81, 'duration': 6.284}, {'end': 2766.377, 'text': 'I talk to philosophers like Nick Bostrom and Toby Ord, and they think that this is a real problem we need to worry about.', 'start': 2758.594, 'duration': 7.783}, {'end': 2779.14, 'text': "Then I talk to people who work for Microsoft or DeepMind or somebody, and they say no, we're not really that close to producing AGI superintelligence.", 'start': 2767.237, 'duration': 11.903}], 'summary': 'Debate over the potential dangers of agi with varying opinions from experts and industry professionals.', 'duration': 39.788, 'max_score': 2739.352, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs2739352.jpg'}, {'end': 2831.394, 'src': 'heatmap', 'start': 2779.62, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 2784.962, 'text': "So if you look at Nick Bostrom, the argument that it's very hard to defend.", 'start': 2779.62, 'duration': 5.342}, {'end': 2791.965, 'text': "So I'm, of course, I am a self-engineer, AI system, so I'm more with the deep mind folks where it seems that we're really far away.", 'start': 2784.982, 'duration': 6.983}, {'end': 2797.967, 'text': "But then the counter argument is is there any fundamental reason that we'll never achieve it?", 'start': 2792.365, 'duration': 5.602}, {'end': 2804.375, 'text': "And if not, then eventually there'll be a dire existential risk.", 'start': 2799.232, 'duration': 5.143}, {'end': 2805.716, 'text': 'so we should be concerned about it.', 'start': 2804.375, 'duration': 1.341}, {'end': 2812.179, 'text': 'And do you find that argument at all appealing in this domain or any domain?', 'start': 2806.716, 'duration': 5.463}, {'end': 2813.94, 'text': 'that eventually this will be a problem?', 'start': 2812.179, 'duration': 1.761}, {'end': 2815.041, 'text': 'so we should be worried about it?', 'start': 2813.94, 'duration': 1.101}, {'end': 2818.683, 'text': "Yes, I think it's a problem.", 'start': 2816.942, 'duration': 1.741}, {'end': 2822.605, 'text': "I think that's a valid point.", 'start': 2818.743, 'duration': 3.862}, {'end': 2831.394, 'text': 'Of course, when you say eventually that raises the question how far off is that?', 'start': 2823.906, 'duration': 7.488}], 'summary': 'Debate on the existential risk of ai, with concerns about its potential impact and the need for vigilance.', 'duration': 51.774, 'max_score': 2779.62, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs2779620.jpg'}, {'end': 3088.824, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3061.025, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 3067.732, 'text': 'which is just awe-inspiring to think of when you think about the entirety of the span of time of the universe.', 'start': 3061.025, 'duration': 6.707}, {'end': 3075.239, 'text': "It's both interesting from a computer science perspective, AI perspective, and from an ethical perspective, the idea of utilitarianism.", 'start': 3068.933, 'duration': 6.306}, {'end': 3078.281, 'text': 'Could you say what is utilitarianism?', 'start': 3075.999, 'duration': 2.282}, {'end': 3088.824, 'text': 'Utilitarianism is the ethical view that the right thing to do is the act that has the greatest expected utility,', 'start': 3079.736, 'duration': 9.088}], 'summary': 'Utilitarianism is an ethical view that promotes the act with the greatest expected utility.', 'duration': 27.799, 'max_score': 3061.025, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3061025.jpg'}], 'start': 2689.58, 'title': 'Ai control problem and utilitarianism', 'summary': 'Discusses ai control problem and existential risks, including agi superintelligence, ethical implications, and utilitarian perspective, as well as utilitarianism and the calculation of consequences with focus on short-term ramifications.', 'chapters': [{'end': 3127.322, 'start': 2689.58, 'title': 'Ai control problem and existential risks', 'summary': 'Discusses the ai control problem and existential risks, including concerns about agi superintelligence, ethical implications, and utilitarian perspective.', 'duration': 437.742, 'highlights': ['The chapter discusses the AI control problem and existential risks, including concerns about AGI superintelligence, ethical implications, and utilitarian perspective. The discussion covers concerns about losing control of AGI, differing opinions on the timeline for AGI production, and the ethical implications and utilitarian perspective on existential risks.', 'The potential risks of AGI superintelligence and the ongoing debate about the level of priority it should have in comparison to present questions. The speaker discusses the potential risks of AGI superintelligence and the ongoing debate about the level of priority it should have in comparison to present questions from a utilitarian perspective.', 'The ethical perspective on utilitarianism and its implications for decision-making in the context of AI and existential risks. The chapter delves into the ethical perspective on utilitarianism and its implications for decision-making in the context of AI and existential risks, emphasizing the complexity and difficulty of such calculations.']}, {'end': 3283.537, 'start': 3127.583, 'title': 'Utilitarianism and consequences', 'summary': 'Discusses utilitarianism and the calculation of consequences, emphasizing the difficulty in measuring quantities of happiness and suffering, and the focus on short-term consequences due to the inability to predict long-term ramifications.', 'duration': 155.954, 'highlights': ['The difficulty in measuring quantities of happiness and suffering poses a challenge in the calculation of consequences, making it hard to predict long-term ramifications.', 'Utilitarians focus on short-term consequences due to the inability to predict all of the longer-term ramifications.', 'Extreme suffering, even in very small groups, may be overridden by benefits to large numbers of individuals, but the severity of suffering and its comparison with the benefits must be considered.']}], 'duration': 593.957, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs2689580.jpg', 'highlights': ['The chapter discusses the AI control problem and existential risks, including concerns about AGI superintelligence, ethical implications, and utilitarian perspective.', 'The potential risks of AGI superintelligence and the ongoing debate about the level of priority it should have in comparison to present questions from a utilitarian perspective.', 'The ethical perspective on utilitarianism and its implications for decision-making in the context of AI and existential risks.']}, {'end': 4145, 'segs': [{'end': 3473.569, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3446.37, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 3452.931, 'text': "So I'm thinking in the case of AI, overseeing what kind of decisions AI can make and not.", 'start': 3446.37, 'duration': 6.561}, {'end': 3464.12, 'text': "But also, if you look at animal rights, or rather not rights, or perhaps rights, but the ideas you've explored in Animal Liberation, who gets to?", 'start': 3453.931, 'duration': 10.189}, {'end': 3473.569, 'text': "so you eloquently, beautifully write in your book that this you know we shouldn't do this, but is there some harder rules that should be imposed?", 'start': 3464.12, 'duration': 9.449}], 'summary': 'Consider ai decision-making and ethical guidelines, as discussed in animal liberation.', 'duration': 27.199, 'max_score': 3446.37, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3446370.jpg'}, {'end': 3531.239, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3500.124, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 3510.568, 'text': 'And I hope that they will vote for policies that reduce the suffering of animals and reduce the suffering of distant humans,', 'start': 3500.124, 'duration': 10.444}, {'end': 3514.15, 'text': "whether geographically distant or distant, because they're future humans.", 'start': 3510.568, 'duration': 3.582}, {'end': 3518.152, 'text': "But I recognize that democracy isn't really well set up to do that.", 'start': 3515.13, 'duration': 3.022}, {'end': 3531.239, 'text': 'And in a sense, you could imagine a wise and benevolent, you know, omnibenevolent leader who would do that better than democracies could.', 'start': 3519.573, 'duration': 11.666}], 'summary': "Advocates for policies to reduce animal and human suffering, but doubts democracy's effectiveness in achieving this.", 'duration': 31.115, 'max_score': 3500.124, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3500124.jpg'}, {'end': 3567.243, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3542.605, 'weight': 3, 'content': [{'end': 3551.35, 'text': "We've had so many examples of people who've taken power with good intentions and then have ended up being corrupt and favouring themselves.", 'start': 3542.605, 'duration': 8.745}, {'end': 3554.592, 'text': "So I don't know.", 'start': 3552.831, 'duration': 1.761}, {'end': 3559.515, 'text': "That's why, as I say, I don't know that we have a better system than democracy to make these decisions.", 'start': 3554.612, 'duration': 4.903}, {'end': 3567.243, 'text': 'Well, so you also discuss effective altruism, which is a mechanism for going around government,', 'start': 3560.035, 'duration': 7.208}], 'summary': 'Challenges of power, skepticism about alternatives, and exploring effective altruism.', 'duration': 24.638, 'max_score': 3542.605, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3542605.jpg'}, {'end': 3668.323, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3638.486, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 3648.57, 'text': 'through no fault of their own, are in very dire circumstances and living a life that is barely, or perhaps not at all,', 'start': 3638.486, 'duration': 10.084}, {'end': 3651.452, 'text': 'a decent life for a human being to live.', 'start': 3648.57, 'duration': 2.882}, {'end': 3657.216, 'text': 'So you describe a minimum ethical standard of giving.', 'start': 3651.972, 'duration': 5.244}, {'end': 3668.323, 'text': 'What advice would you give to people that want to be effectively altruistic in their life, like live an effective altruism life?', 'start': 3658.777, 'duration': 9.546}], 'summary': 'Many people in dire circumstances need minimum ethical standard of giving to live a decent life.', 'duration': 29.837, 'max_score': 3638.486, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3638486.jpg'}, {'end': 3720.554, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3691.095, 'weight': 5, 'content': [{'end': 3696.318, 'text': 'so that you can earn a huge amount of money and then donate most of it to effective charities,', 'start': 3691.095, 'duration': 5.223}, {'end': 3707.925, 'text': 'to going to work for a really good nonprofit organization, so that you can directly use your skills and ability and hard work to further a good cause.', 'start': 3697.018, 'duration': 10.907}, {'end': 3714.53, 'text': 'Or perhaps going into politics, maybe small chances but big payoffs in politics.', 'start': 3708.686, 'duration': 5.844}, {'end': 3720.554, 'text': "Go to work in the public service where if you're talented, you might rise to a high level where you can influence decisions.", 'start': 3715.19, 'duration': 5.364}], 'summary': 'Ways to make an impact: donate to charities, work for nonprofits, pursue politics or public service.', 'duration': 29.459, 'max_score': 3691.095, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3691095.jpg'}, {'end': 3825.999, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3802.045, 'weight': 6, 'content': [{'end': 3813.653, 'text': 'i do set out a progressive donor scale which starts out at one percent for people on modest incomes and rises to 33 and a third percent for people who are really earning a lot.', 'start': 3802.045, 'duration': 11.608}, {'end': 3825.999, 'text': "My idea is that I don't think any of these amounts really impose real hardship on people, because they are progressive and geared to income.", 'start': 3814.513, 'duration': 11.486}], 'summary': 'Proposing a progressive donor scale from 1% to 33.3% based on income, aiming to avoid imposing hardship on contributors.', 'duration': 23.954, 'max_score': 3802.045, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3802045.jpg'}, {'end': 4074.734, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3997.75, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 4001.993, 'text': "But otherwise, no, I'd rather have more time to do more.", 'start': 3997.75, 'duration': 4.243}, {'end': 4006.717, 'text': "I'd also like to be able to see how things go that I'm interested in.", 'start': 4002.073, 'duration': 4.644}, {'end': 4012.881, 'text': 'Is climate change going to turn out to be as dire as a lot of scientists say that it is going to be?', 'start': 4007.597, 'duration': 5.284}, {'end': 4017.064, 'text': 'Will we somehow scrape through with less damage than we thought??', 'start': 4013.622, 'duration': 3.442}, {'end': 4021.207, 'text': "I'd really like to know the answers to those questions, but I guess I'm not going to.", 'start': 4017.885, 'duration': 3.322}, {'end': 4024.65, 'text': "Well, you said there's nothing afterwards.", 'start': 4022.208, 'duration': 2.442}, {'end': 4028.052, 'text': 'So let me ask the even more absurd question.', 'start': 4025.811, 'duration': 2.241}, {'end': 4034.036, 'text': 'What do you think is the meaning of it all? I think the meaning of life is the meaning we give to it.', 'start': 4028.112, 'duration': 5.924}, {'end': 4040.84, 'text': "I don't think that we were brought into the universe for any kind of larger purpose.", 'start': 4034.196, 'duration': 6.644}, {'end': 4049.198, 'text': 'But given that we exist, I think we can recognize that some things are objectively bad.', 'start': 4041.894, 'duration': 7.304}, {'end': 4058.883, 'text': 'Extreme suffering is an example, and other things are objectively good, like having a rich, fulfilling, enjoyable, pleasurable life.', 'start': 4050.839, 'duration': 8.044}, {'end': 4065.527, 'text': 'And we can try to do our part in reducing the bad things and increasing the good things.', 'start': 4060.244, 'duration': 5.283}, {'end': 4074.734, 'text': 'So one way, the meaning is to do a little bit more of the good things, objectively good things, and a little bit less of the bad things.', 'start': 4067.228, 'duration': 7.506}], 'summary': 'Desires more time to pursue interests, seeks answers on climate change, and believes in creating meaning by reducing suffering and increasing pleasure.', 'duration': 76.984, 'max_score': 3997.75, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3997750.jpg'}], 'start': 3283.537, 'title': 'Ethical decision making and effective altruism', 'summary': "Delves into the complexity of ethical decision-making, covering suffering, well-being optimization, convergence towards an objective function, government's role in ethics oversight, and the limitations of democracy. it also explores effective altruism, ethical living, and mortality, emphasizing helping people in extreme poverty, ethical career choices, and a progressive donor scale for giving.", 'chapters': [{'end': 3567.243, 'start': 3283.537, 'title': 'Ethical decision making in society', 'summary': 'Discusses the complexity of ethical decision-making, including the consideration of suffering, well-being optimization, convergence towards an objective function, the role of government in ethics oversight, and the limitations of democracy, while also exploring the concept of effective altruism.', 'duration': 283.706, 'highlights': ['The complexity of ethical decision-making The chapter delves into the complexity of ethical decision-making, considering factors such as suffering, well-being optimization, and convergence towards an objective function.', 'The role of government in ethics oversight The discussion involves the consideration of ethics oversight from the government, particularly in the context of AI decision-making and animal rights, and the challenges of imposing harder rules or converging towards better ethical decisions.', 'Limitations of democracy in reducing suffering The limitations of democracy in effectively reducing the suffering of animals and distant humans are explored, with the recognition that democracy may not be optimally designed for this purpose.', 'Exploration of effective altruism The concept of effective altruism is briefly touched upon as a mechanism for circumventing government limitations in addressing ethical concerns.']}, {'end': 4145, 'start': 3567.243, 'title': 'Effective altruism and ethical living', 'summary': 'Discusses effective altruism, ethical living, and mortality, emphasizing the importance of helping people in extreme poverty, providing advice for ethical career choices, and suggesting a progressive donor scale for giving, while also reflecting on mortality and the meaning of life.', 'duration': 577.757, 'highlights': ['Peter Singer advocates for effective altruism, emphasizing the importance of helping people in extreme poverty and promoting ethical living. Peter Singer stresses the significance of helping people in extreme poverty and encourages ethical living, highlighting the fulfilling nature of making a positive contribution to the world.', 'Singer provides advice for ethical career choices, including working for nonprofit organizations, entering politics, or conducting research in areas with potential high payoffs. Singer advises individuals to consider ethical career choices such as working for nonprofit organizations, entering politics, or conducting research in areas with potential high payoffs, aiming to further a good cause and make a positive difference in the world.', 'Singer suggests a progressive donor scale for giving, starting at one percent for people on modest incomes and rising to 33 and a third percent for high earners, to reduce the gap between extreme poverty and affluent lives. Singer proposes a progressive donor scale for giving, starting at one percent for those with modest incomes and increasing to 33 and a third percent for high earners, aiming to decrease the gap between people in extreme poverty and those living affluent lives.', 'Singer reflects on mortality, acknowledging the limited time individuals have to achieve their goals and expressing a desire to witness the outcomes of events such as climate change. Singer contemplates mortality, acknowledging the limited time individuals have to achieve their goals and expressing a desire to witness the outcomes of events like climate change while recognizing the motivation gained from the awareness of limited time.', 'Singer discusses the meaning of life, emphasizing the subjective nature of meaning and advocating for contributing to objectively good things and reducing objectively bad things. Singer emphasizes the subjective nature of the meaning of life and advocates for contributing to objectively good things while reducing objectively bad things, encouraging individuals to recognize and address the objective good and bad aspects of life.']}], 'duration': 861.463, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/llh-2pqSGrs/pics/llh-2pqSGrs3283537.jpg', 'highlights': ['The complexity of ethical decision-making, considering factors such as suffering, well-being optimization, and convergence towards an objective function.', 'The role of government in ethics oversight, particularly in the context of AI decision-making and animal rights, and the challenges of imposing harder rules or converging towards better ethical decisions.', 'Limitations of democracy in effectively reducing the suffering of animals and distant humans, recognizing that democracy may not be optimally designed for this purpose.', 'Exploration of effective altruism as a mechanism for circumventing government limitations in addressing ethical concerns.', 'Peter Singer advocates for effective altruism, emphasizing the importance of helping people in extreme poverty and promoting ethical living.', 'Singer provides advice for ethical career choices, such as working for nonprofit organizations, entering politics, or conducting research in areas with potential high payoffs.', 'Singer suggests a progressive donor scale for giving, starting at one percent for people on modest incomes and rising to 33 and a third percent for high earners, to reduce the gap between extreme poverty and affluent lives.', 'Singer reflects on mortality, acknowledging the limited time individuals have to achieve their goals and expressing a desire to witness the outcomes of events such as climate change.', 'Singer discusses the meaning of life, emphasizing the subjective nature of meaning and advocating for contributing to objectively good things and reducing objectively bad things.']}], 'highlights': ["Peter Singer, a bioethics professor at Princeton University, is known for his influential work in the effective altruism movement and his book 'Animal Liberation'.", 'Singer has written on various ethical topics including extreme poverty, euthanasia, human genetic selection, sports doping, and the sale of kidneys.', 'The chapter discusses the ethical dilemma of consuming meat and the importance of open-minded discourse and empathy in intellectual conversations.', 'The impact of World War II is deeply rooted in the culture and suffering brought by the war is reflected in music, literature, and overall society.', 'The war had a beneficial impact in showing the consequences of racism and authoritarian government on society.', 'The speaker became conscious of the suffering in the world early due to losing three of four grandparents in the Holocaust, with one grandparent surviving the camps.', 'Most people have potential for both good and evil, influenced by environment.', 'Not everyone may be capable of evil, even in the worst of circumstances.', 'Discussion on resisting societal pressures and taking a stand for what is right, drawing parallels between historical examples and contemporary issues.', 'The concept of consciousness as a prerequisite for suffering and the potential for robots to possess consciousness is explored, with a focus on the distinction between artificial intelligence and conscious beings.', 'The potential need to grant rights to robots and animals as they mimic consciousness may harden humans against other beings who truly suffer, leading to a lack of compassion and rights for non-robotic, suffering beings.', 'The empirical evidence of making Roombas scream in pain is discussed, raising philosophical and interpretational questions.', "The concept of speciesism underpins 'Animal Liberation', contributing to the foundation of the animal liberation movement.", 'The chapter discusses the AI control problem and existential risks, including concerns about AGI superintelligence, ethical implications, and utilitarian perspective.', 'The complexity of ethical decision-making, considering factors such as suffering, well-being optimization, and convergence towards an objective function.', 'The role of government in ethics oversight, particularly in the context of AI decision-making and animal rights, and the challenges of imposing harder rules or converging towards better ethical decisions.', 'Exploration of effective altruism as a mechanism for circumventing government limitations in addressing ethical concerns.', 'Peter Singer advocates for effective altruism, emphasizing the importance of helping people in extreme poverty and promoting ethical living.', 'Singer suggests a progressive donor scale for giving, starting at one percent for people on modest incomes and rising to 33 and a third percent for high earners, to reduce the gap between extreme poverty and affluent lives.', 'Singer discusses the meaning of life, emphasizing the subjective nature of meaning and advocating for contributing to objectively good things and reducing objectively bad things.']}