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{'end': 39.768, 'text': 'Just watch the video.', 'start': 39.067, 'duration': 0.701}, {'end': 41.87, 'text': "It's hilarious the way that they try to defend it.", 'start': 39.948, 'duration': 1.922}, {'end': 47.615, 'text': 'They get caught in a bunch of lies, a bunch of little slips of the tongue where I catch them.', 'start': 42.23, 'duration': 5.385}], 'summary': 'Dev mountain fails to justify lack of guarantee or income share agreement, caught in lies.', 'duration': 25.205, 'max_score': 22.41, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI22410.jpg'}, {'end': 89.759, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 63.182, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 67.085, 'text': 'and all this because they want to spam you later so they can try to bring you back.', 'start': 63.182, 'duration': 3.903}, {'end': 70.788, 'text': "I'm sure a lot of you have applied to CodeBootCamps and they still email you.", 'start': 67.145, 'duration': 3.643}, {'end': 73.449, 'text': 'hey, are you interested in changing your life and changing your career today?', 'start': 70.788, 'duration': 2.661}, {'end': 74.59, 'text': 'And, like you know,', 'start': 73.509, 'duration': 1.081}, {'end': 85.997, 'text': "I reject all of that and it makes them pretty upset and I question everything that they ask me and basically just skip to the part of the video where I'm on the call and you'll see how intense they are.", 'start': 74.59, 'duration': 11.407}, {'end': 89.759, 'text': "And while we've been doing this the longest and just making wild claims,", 'start': 86.137, 'duration': 3.622}], 'summary': 'Codebootcamps spam applicants with emails to bring them back for career change, despite rejection and intense sales tactics.', 'duration': 26.577, 'max_score': 63.182, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI63182.jpg'}], 'start': 0.029, 'title': 'Code bootcamp sales tactics', 'summary': 'Exposes deceptive 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'Aggressive pressure tactics to collect personal information for spamming purposes are highlighted, depicting the unethical practices of code bootcamps in attempting to lure potential students back with misleading career promises.']}], 'duration': 74.561, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI29.jpg', 'highlights': ['The deceptive sales tactics of code bootcamps are exposed, demonstrating the struggle to justify the absence of guarantees or income share agreements, as well as the inability to provide compelling reasons for attending their school over others.', 'Aggressive pressure tactics to collect personal information for spamming purposes are highlighted, depicting the unethical practices of code bootcamps in attempting to lure potential students back with misleading career promises.', 'The video captures instances where code bootcamps get caught in lies and slip-ups when attempting to defend their practices, revealing their lack of transparency and credibility.']}, {'end': 395.482, 'segs': [{'end': 171.602, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 93.42, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 100.304, 'text': "Well, Dev Mountain is in Utah and Utah is a one party consent state, meaning that if you're part of the conversation,", 'start': 93.42, 'duration': 6.884}, {'end': 102.665, 'text': 'either of you can record the conversation.', 'start': 100.304, 'duration': 2.361}, {'end': 104.746, 'text': "So I've recorded the conversation.", 'start': 103.265, 'duration': 1.481}, {'end': 105.806, 'text': "I'm that one party.", 'start': 105.026, 'duration': 0.78}, {'end': 115.422, 'text': 'On the second phone call with General Assembly, basically they have a little prompt that says, these calls will be recorded for quality assurance.', 'start': 106.226, 'duration': 9.196}, {'end': 121.586, 'text': 'And that is them, if you stay on the call, that is them basically getting your consent to record the conversation.', 'start': 115.562, 'duration': 6.024}, {'end': 127.472, 'text': "And if they're recording the conversation and you consent to it, They've already consented, and so I can record the conversation.", 'start': 121.626, 'duration': 5.846}, {'end': 132.855, 'text': "I don't even need to ask them if I can record in basically any of these cases, so don't worry too much about that.", 'start': 127.512, 'duration': 5.343}, {'end': 133.796, 'text': 'I did my research.', 'start': 132.955, 'duration': 0.841}, {'end': 138.839, 'text': "I made sure all these places were one-party consent states, and that's where they were located, and blah, blah, blah.", 'start': 134.196, 'duration': 4.643}, {'end': 141.821, 'text': 'Finally, you might think that this is just a giant ad for Lambda School.', 'start': 139.24, 'duration': 2.581}, {'end': 142.722, 'text': "It's not.", 'start': 142.302, 'duration': 0.42}, {'end': 149.306, 'text': 'Lambda School is just the only boot camp that would work with me, and then there are obviously some trash boot camps out there.', 'start': 142.942, 'duration': 6.364}, {'end': 151.948, 'text': 'For example, Dev Mountain is one of them, in my opinion.', 'start': 149.366, 'duration': 2.582}, {'end': 154.43, 'text': "I think it's complete garbage, and I know because I went there.", 'start': 151.988, 'duration': 2.442}, {'end': 156.651, 'text': 'So I would stay away from that.', 'start': 155.35, 'duration': 1.301}, {'end': 162.035, 'text': "After talking to Mr. D from General Assembly, I'd stay far away from that too.", 'start': 157.152, 'duration': 4.883}, {'end': 169.12, 'text': "They're making wild claims about how all income share agreements are the same if you just look at the fine print and all this and that.", 'start': 162.436, 'duration': 6.684}, {'end': 170.541, 'text': 'And I called a few other places.', 'start': 169.28, 'duration': 1.261}, {'end': 171.602, 'text': 'I called Trilogy.', 'start': 170.581, 'duration': 1.021}], 'summary': 'One-party consent states allow recording of conversations without consent. dev mountain and general assembly are criticized, while lambda school is recommended.', 'duration': 78.182, 'max_score': 93.42, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI93420.jpg'}, {'end': 361.595, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 334.771, 'weight': 7, 'content': [{'end': 342.754, 'text': "And I found some that offer you get your money back if you don't find a job in six months or like you don't pay unless you get a job.", 'start': 334.771, 'duration': 7.983}, {'end': 344.836, 'text': 'And I was wondering if you guys have those.', 'start': 342.995, 'duration': 1.841}, {'end': 349.798, 'text': 'So we do have what we call the Catalyst program where you can learn now and pay after classes.', 'start': 345.016, 'duration': 4.782}, {'end': 361.595, 'text': "you're hired after the immersive program, and so, as far as that goes, before I get you over to the advisor, do you mind if I ask a 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Lambda School being recommended as the only boot camp that worked for the speaker', 'Negative experience and caution against Dev Mountain Dev Mountain being labeled as complete garbage and advised to stay away from', 'Caution against General Assembly and their claims about income share agreements General Assembly being advised to stay far away from due to wild claims about income share agreements', 'Mention of Trilogy Education and the need for thorough research before choosing a boot camp Importance of thorough research before choosing a boot camp, including mention of Trilogy Education', 'Discussion of income share agreements and job placement programs in boot camps Discussion of income share agreements and job placement programs in boot camps, including the Catalyst program']}], 'duration': 320.892, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI74590.jpg', 'highlights': ['Utah is a one party consent state, allowing recording if one party consents.', 'General Assembly has a prompt indicating calls will be recorded for consent.', 'Speaker researched legality of recording phone calls to ensure consent.', 'Lambda School recommended as the only boot camp that worked for the speaker.', 'Dev Mountain labeled as complete garbage and advised to stay away from.', 'General Assembly advised to stay far away from due to wild claims about income share agreements.', 'Importance of thorough research before choosing a boot camp, including mention of Trilogy Education.', 'Discussion of income share agreements and job placement programs in boot camps, including the Catalyst program.']}, {'end': 738.072, 'segs': [{'end': 477.465, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 406.661, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 408.342, 'text': 'I manage admissions here at General Assembly.', 'start': 406.661, 'duration': 1.681}, {'end': 409.603, 'text': "How are you today? I'm good, man.", 'start': 408.362, 'duration': 1.241}, {'end': 414.967, 'text': 'I was just curious if you can give me some details about the Catalyst thing and how that works.', 'start': 409.863, 'duration': 5.104}, {'end': 416.928, 'text': "Yeah, it's a pay later option.", 'start': 415.047, 'duration': 1.881}, {'end': 420.01, 'text': "It's a popular program among tech education schools.", 'start': 416.968, 'duration': 3.042}, {'end': 428.916, 'text': 'They basically allow you to enroll in the course, work with our career services team, get several projects under your belt.', 'start': 420.05, 'duration': 8.866}, {'end': 431.677, 'text': 'You work with our career services team.', 'start': 428.936, 'duration': 2.741}, {'end': 433.899, 'text': "We help you find a job after you're in this program.", 'start': 431.717, 'duration': 2.182}, {'end': 440.984, 'text': "And while you're going through that process, the Catalyst program allows you not to have to worry about any tuition during that time.", 'start': 434.819, 'duration': 6.165}, {'end': 446.568, 'text': "And then once you've gotten hired, you're going to pay back your tuition at 10% of your monthly salary.", 'start': 441.424, 'duration': 5.144}, {'end': 448.009, 'text': "So yeah, it's a cool program.", 'start': 446.668, 'duration': 1.341}, {'end': 451.552, 'text': "You're offering to pay more for the course if you go that route.", 'start': 448.189, 'duration': 3.363}, {'end': 453.253, 'text': '50% more for the program, for that matter.', 'start': 451.572, 'duration': 1.681}, {'end': 460.079, 'text': "Okay, how long does that 10% go? For how many years? It goes, it's a two-fold.", 'start': 453.754, 'duration': 6.325}, {'end': 464.422, 'text': 'It goes to, the cap is 22.5, and then it stops there.', 'start': 460.139, 'duration': 4.283}, {'end': 477.465, 'text': "Otherwise, if you're making at the bare minimum of $40,000 a year, then you're going to pay back 10% of $40,000 monthly or whatever that is monthly.", 'start': 465.357, 'duration': 12.108}], 'summary': 'General assembly offers catalyst program, pay 50% more, repay 10% of monthly salary until cap of 22.5.', 'duration': 70.804, 'max_score': 406.661, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI406661.jpg'}, {'end': 566.886, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 541.497, 'weight': 5, 'content': [{'end': 547.359, 'text': 'So in terms of supporting students and landing jobs, that is the ROI of why we exist in the first place.', 'start': 541.497, 'duration': 5.862}, {'end': 551.101, 'text': "So we're not saying, Hey, you know what, you got your skills, right? Best of luck to you.", 'start': 547.399, 'duration': 3.702}, {'end': 558.66, 'text': 'No, like, Our outcomes report that we get is validated through KPMG, one of the big auditing firms.', 'start': 551.161, 'duration': 7.499}, {'end': 562.283, 'text': 'You are equipped with technical skill that is in demand.', 'start': 558.86, 'duration': 3.423}, {'end': 566.886, 'text': 'These are skills that there are more jobs out there than there are people who have the skills to do.', 'start': 562.703, 'duration': 4.183}], 'summary': "The organization's roi is supporting students in landing high-demand jobs, validated by kpmg.", 'duration': 25.389, 'max_score': 541.497, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI541497.jpg'}, {'end': 718.517, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 692.745, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 700.848, 'text': 'You know, I feel like our curriculum is improving over just 10 years now and 12 weeks is enough to get your industry ready.', 'start': 692.745, 'duration': 8.103}, {'end': 703.93, 'text': "Because software engineering is not something that you're going to learn in 12 weeks.", 'start': 700.868, 'duration': 3.062}, {'end': 709.252, 'text': 'We support you in getting your first entry level software engineering role.', 'start': 704.39, 'duration': 4.862}, {'end': 718.517, 'text': 'And the career services is very strategic about where we have you direct your attention as far as finding that first career opportunity.', 'start': 709.693, 'duration': 8.824}], 'summary': 'Curriculum improved over 10 years, 12 weeks prepares for software engineering role.', 'duration': 25.772, 'max_score': 692.745, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI692745.jpg'}], 'start': 406.661, 'title': 'Ga catalyst and coding bootcamp payment', 'summary': 'Introduces the ga catalyst program, offering a pay later option for students to enroll in courses, work with career services, and pay back tuition at 10% of their monthly salary after securing a job. it also discusses the payment structure of a coding bootcamp, including a 50% increase for a program, a 10% payback cap, and the emphasis on job placement and demand for technical skills.', 'chapters': [{'end': 448.009, 'start': 406.661, 'title': 'Ga catalyst program: pay later option', 'summary': 'Introduces the ga catalyst program, a pay later option that allows students to enroll in courses, work with career services, and pay back tuition at 10% of their monthly salary after securing a job.', 'duration': 41.348, 'highlights': ['The GA Catalyst program is a pay later option popular among tech education schools, allowing students to enroll in courses, work with career services, and complete several projects.', 'Participants are supported by the career services team to find a job after the program.', 'Students do not have to worry about tuition during the program and only start paying back at 10% of their monthly salary after being hired.']}, {'end': 738.072, 'start': 448.189, 'title': 'Coding bootcamp payment and job placement', 'summary': "Discusses the payment structure of a coding bootcamp, including a 50% increase for a program, a 10% payback cap, and the expectation for a software engineering job, emphasizing the institution's focus on job placement and the demand for technical skills.", 'duration': 289.883, 'highlights': ['The payment structure includes a 50% increase for a program and a 10% payback cap with a minimum income requirement of $40,000 annually. The payment structure involves a 50% increase for a program and a 10% payback cap, setting a minimum income requirement of $40,000 annually, providing clear financial terms.', "The institution's primary goal is to help students secure software engineering roles, and it expects repayment regardless of the job obtained after the program. The institution's main focus is on helping students find software engineering roles, and repayment is expected regardless of the job obtained after the program, highlighting the institution's specific career-oriented objectives.", "The institution emphasizes its long-standing experience and success in job placement, supported by validated outcomes reports from KPMG, indicating a high demand for technical skills in the job market. 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call.', 'start': 896.433, 'duration': 3.884}, {'end': 902.433, 'text': 'Thank you for calling the Software Guild.', 'start': 900.831, 'duration': 1.602}, {'end': 904.675, 'text': 'A representative will be with you shortly.', 'start': 902.853, 'duration': 1.822}, {'end': 911.441, 'text': 'At the tone, please leave your name, number, and a brief reason for your call and we will get back to you as soon as possible.', 'start': 905.195, 'duration': 6.246}], 'summary': 'Consider switching to software guild in minnesota for better value.', 'duration': 29.341, 'max_score': 882.1, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI882100.jpg'}], 'start': 738.192, 'title': 'Income share agreement comparison', 'summary': 'Discusses the comparison of income share agreements, emphasizing payment term disparities, program duration, and curriculum importance, with a focus on the $22,500 fee for a 12-week program.', 'chapters': [{'end': 904.675, 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me.', 'start': 923.935, 'duration': 4.403}, {'end': 934.944, 'text': 'It was just a quick question just about like the job placement and like job guarantee.', 'start': 928.419, 'duration': 6.525}, {'end': 945.318, 'text': 'Okay, like I know, we do have an outcomes department and part of our curriculum is you go through like a job prep course as well as they give you,', 'start': 935.364, 'duration': 9.954}, {'end': 947.622, 'text': 'like resume and mock interviews.', 'start': 945.318, 'duration': 2.304}, {'end': 950.106, 'text': 'and we do have like a whole department.', 'start': 947.622, 'duration': 2.484}], 'summary': 'Devmountain offers job prep course, resume and mock interviews, with a dedicated outcomes department.', 'duration': 26.171, 'max_score': 923.935, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI923935.jpg'}, {'end': 1030.584, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1005.587, 'weight': 3, 'content': [{'end': 1012.252, 'text': "Because sometimes with the go to school now, pay later, it'll be a percentage of your new job that you get.", 'start': 1005.587, 'duration': 6.665}, {'end': 1018.212, 'text': 'or it is like double what we charge in a few other book camps I know.', 'start': 1012.987, 'duration': 5.225}, {'end': 1023.678, 'text': "And I'm not – like we might in the future implement some sort of model like that.", 'start': 1018.653, 'duration': 5.025}, {'end': 1030.584, 'text': 'I just know now we do have some loan companies we work with as far as getting like tuition out of the way up front.', 'start': 1023.698, 'duration': 6.886}], 'summary': 'Offering financing options with potential for percentage of future income as repayment.', 'duration': 24.997, 'max_score': 1005.587, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1005587.jpg'}, {'end': 1112.904, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1082.236, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 1088.32, 'text': "I'm not super familiar with like the repayment and everything on how that works.", 'start': 1082.236, 'duration': 6.084}, {'end': 1093.904, 'text': 'Do you know, like the average, that people get paid when they do get a job after they start?', 'start': 1088.34, 'duration': 5.564}, {'end': 1105.742, 'text': "That's something I'm not super familiar with, and I would say that probably just varies, I guess, depending to where you live or what state you're in.", 'start': 1096.978, 'duration': 8.764}, {'end': 1112.904, 'text': 'I guess maybe this is like a difficult question, but if you had to be for the sake of it, if you had to be non-biased,', 'start': 1105.922, 'duration': 6.982}], 'summary': 'Discussion on average post-job repayment, varies by location.', 'duration': 30.668, 'max_score': 1082.236, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1082236.jpg'}], 'start': 905.195, 'title': 'Devmountain inquiry and tuition payment options', 'summary': "Provides an overview of an inquiry call to devmountain regarding job placement and guarantee, outcomes department, job prep course, resume, and mock interviews. it also discusses the absence of tuition reimbursement or deferred payment until job placement, potential 'go to school now, pay later' model, and loan options through skills fund or climb, with uncertainty regarding loan repayment and average job salaries.", 'chapters': [{'end': 950.106, 'start': 905.195, 'title': 'Devmountain inquiry', 'summary': 'Provides an overview of an inquiry call to devmountain regarding job placement and guarantee, highlighting the outcomes department, job prep course, resume, and mock interviews.', 'duration': 44.911, 'highlights': ['DevMountain offers a job prep course and assistance with resume and mock interviews as part of its curriculum.', 'The outcomes department and a dedicated department for job-related support are available at DevMountain.', 'The caller inquires about job placement and guarantee at DevMountain.']}, {'end': 1105.742, 'start': 958.089, 'title': 'Tuition payment options and job placement', 'summary': "Discusses the absence of tuition reimbursement or deferred payment until job placement, the potential implementation of a 'go to school now, pay later' model, and the availability of loan options through skills fund or climb, with uncertainty regarding loan repayment and average job salaries.", 'duration': 147.653, 'highlights': ["The absence of tuition reimbursement or deferred payment until job placement is confirmed, with the potential future implementation of a 'go to school now, pay later' model, and the availability of loan options through Skills Fund or Climb.", 'Uncertainty surrounds the details of loan repayment and the average job salaries after completing the program, with acknowledgment of varying factors such as location and state.']}], 'duration': 200.547, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI905195.jpg', 'highlights': ['DevMountain offers a job prep course and assistance with resume and mock interviews as part of its curriculum.', 'The outcomes department and a dedicated department for job-related support are available at DevMountain.', 'The caller inquires about job placement and guarantee at DevMountain.', "The absence of tuition reimbursement or deferred payment until job placement is confirmed, with the potential future implementation of a 'go to school now, pay later' model, and the availability of loan options through Skills Fund or Climb.", 'Uncertainty surrounds the details of loan repayment and the average job salaries after completing the program, with acknowledgment of varying factors such as location and state.']}, {'end': 1343.226, 'segs': [{'end': 1194.278, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1145.896, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 1154.702, 'text': "I know, but I wish I knew more for you, but I just don't hear as much about the competitors or why you know.", 'start': 1145.896, 'duration': 8.806}, {'end': 1163.596, 'text': 'I would say, like A lot of people do, some pro-flight classes or the Udemy or Code Academy.', 'start': 1154.702, 'duration': 8.894}, {'end': 1172.007, 'text': "Those are ones that, like I've heard, they're obviously not like a boot camp, but they are like a self-learning software, I guess you could say.", 'start': 1164.337, 'duration': 7.67}, {'end': 1173.79, 'text': 'Okay, what about like?', 'start': 1172.429, 'duration': 1.361}, {'end': 1174.61, 'text': 'so I saw like.', 'start': 1173.79, 'duration': 0.82}, {'end': 1178.913, 'text': 'I think it was like Strayer University or something for Dev Mountain?', 'start': 1174.61, 'duration': 4.303}, {'end': 1179.513, 'text': 'Is it like?', 'start': 1178.953, 'duration': 0.56}, {'end': 1180.454, 'text': "it's not college, right??", 'start': 1179.513, 'duration': 0.941}, {'end': 1181.715, 'text': 'Yeah, yeah, yeah.', 'start': 1180.874, 'duration': 0.841}, {'end': 1182.956, 'text': "We're owned by Strayer.", 'start': 1181.755, 'duration': 1.201}, {'end': 1184.677, 'text': "They're the university.", 'start': 1182.976, 'duration': 1.701}, {'end': 1189.78, 'text': "They don't have any type of, like, quick boot camp type classes.", 'start': 1184.737, 'duration': 5.043}, {'end': 1192.216, 'text': "So that's where we kind of coexist.", 'start': 1190.815, 'duration': 1.401}, {'end': 1194.278, 'text': "They're more of the two-year, four-year.", 'start': 1192.256, 'duration': 2.022}], 'summary': 'Discussion about coding education options, including udemy, code academy, and strayer university, with emphasis on the difference in offerings and duration.', 'duration': 48.382, 'max_score': 1145.896, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1145896.jpg'}, {'end': 1238.054, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1214.094, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 1221.6, 'text': "When you're in the program and after the program we can focus on jobs and you know your education versus like trying to collect that money.", 'start': 1214.094, 'duration': 7.506}, {'end': 1226.744, 'text': "and i mean in the future, if that's you know where i mean, i feel like a lot of boot camps are going that way.", 'start': 1221.6, 'duration': 5.144}, {'end': 1230.848, 'text': "see, that's tricky because i i don't know too many.", 'start': 1226.744, 'duration': 4.104}, {'end': 1231.448, 'text': "i guess that's it.", 'start': 1230.848, 'duration': 0.6}, {'end': 1238.054, 'text': 'then yeah, if you do have any other questions, feel free to call and i can get you in contact with someone in admissions.', 'start': 1231.448, 'duration': 6.606}], 'summary': 'Boot camps increasingly emphasizing job placement over tuition collection.', 'duration': 23.96, 'max_score': 1214.094, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1214094.jpg'}, {'end': 1267.544, 'src': 'heatmap', 'start': 1241.837, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 1246.2, 'text': 'yeah, my name is okay, perfect, i will keep an eye out for your phone call.', 'start': 1241.837, 'duration': 4.363}, {'end': 1247.181, 'text': 'okay, thank you so much.', 'start': 1246.2, 'duration': 0.981}, {'end': 1254.679, 'text': 'Oh, we got a call.', 'start': 1253.078, 'duration': 1.601}, {'end': 1259.861, 'text': 'This call is to authorize a payment of $999.', 'start': 1254.959, 'duration': 4.902}, {'end': 1261.021, 'text': "So that's it for this video, guys.", 'start': 1259.861, 'duration': 1.16}, {'end': 1267.544, 'text': "If you enjoyed it and you want me to call some other code boot camps and pretend like I don't know anything, let me know and I'll be happy to do it,", 'start': 1261.121, 'duration': 6.423}], 'summary': 'Received call authorizing $999 payment, offer to call other boot camps.', 'duration': 25.707, 'max_score': 1241.837, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1241837.jpg'}, {'end': 1290.452, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1259.861, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 1261.021, 'text': "So that's it for this video, guys.", 'start': 1259.861, 'duration': 1.16}, {'end': 1267.544, 'text': "If you enjoyed it and you want me to call some other code boot camps and pretend like I don't know anything, let me know and I'll be happy to do it,", 'start': 1261.121, 'duration': 6.423}, {'end': 1269.905, 'text': 'as long as I can legally record the conversation, of course.', 'start': 1267.544, 'duration': 2.361}, {'end': 1278.908, 'text': "And yeah, if you're interested in a code boot camp, I have a link for Lambda School in the description, but this is not sponsored.", 'start': 1270.785, 'duration': 8.123}, {'end': 1279.889, 'text': "They didn't give me any money.", 'start': 1278.948, 'duration': 0.941}, {'end': 1282.13, 'text': 'This is just me doing it out of my own free will.', 'start': 1279.929, 'duration': 2.201}, {'end': 1285.291, 'text': 'In my opinion, you should be self-taught first, okay?', 'start': 1283.01, 'duration': 2.281}, {'end': 1290.452, 'text': "But if you're going to go to a code bootcamp, make sure that the ISA is not garbage and that they have a guarantee.", 'start': 1285.331, 'duration': 5.121}], 'summary': 'Consider self-teaching first, but ensure a code boot camp has a good isa and guarantee.', 'duration': 30.591, 'max_score': 1259.861, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1259861.jpg'}, {'end': 1343.226, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1325.966, 'weight': 6, 'content': [{'end': 1331.069, 'text': 'Is this Kiboga? If you do not authorize this order, press 1 or press 2 to authorize this order.', 'start': 1325.966, 'duration': 5.103}, {'end': 1332.67, 'text': "Let's see if it's Kiboga.", 'start': 1331.809, 'duration': 0.861}, {'end': 1335.484, 'text': 'I got a call that $900 was on my account.', 'start': 1333.303, 'duration': 2.181}, {'end': 1336.324, 'text': 'My name is Billy.', 'start': 1335.504, 'duration': 0.82}, {'end': 1340.305, 'text': 'First name basis only and he can check my account.', 'start': 1336.344, 'duration': 3.961}, {'end': 1342.046, 'text': 'No account number, nothing, just Billy.', 'start': 1340.325, 'duration': 1.721}, {'end': 1343.226, 'text': "I've been watching too much Kitboga.", 'start': 1342.066, 'duration': 1.16}], 'summary': "Attempted scam call for $900, using the name 'billy' without account details.", 'duration': 17.26, 'max_score': 1325.966, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1325966.jpg'}], 'start': 1105.922, 'title': 'Boot camps and self-taught learning', 'summary': 'Compares top boot camps, such as dev mountain and self-learning options like pro-flight classes, udemy, and code academy. it also discusses the importance of self-taught learning before considering a code bootcamp and promotes lambda school as a potential option, while humorously referencing a scam call.', 'chapters': [{'end': 1259.861, 'start': 1105.922, 'title': 'Top boot camps comparison', 'summary': "Discusses the top boot camps to consider, highlighting dev mountain's ownership by strayer university and the focus on job placement and financial structure, while mentioning the self-learning options like pro-flight classes, udemy, and code academy.", 'duration': 153.939, 'highlights': ['Dev Mountain is owned by Strayer University, coexisting as a two-year, four-year university, not providing quick boot camp type classes.', "Dev Mountain's program focuses on jobs and education post-program, with a financial structure that allows students to pay once they secure a job.", 'Mention of self-learning software options like Pro-flight classes, Udemy, and Code Academy as alternatives to traditional boot camps.']}, {'end': 1343.226, 'start': 1259.861, 'title': 'Code bootcamps and self-taught learning', 'summary': 'Emphasizes the importance of being self-taught before considering a code bootcamp, advises on evaluating the isa and guarantees, and promotes lambda school as a potential option, while also humorously referencing a scam call.', 'duration': 83.365, 'highlights': ['The importance of being self-taught before considering a code bootcamp. It is recommended to be self-taught first before considering a code bootcamp.', 'Advice on evaluating the ISA and guarantees when choosing a code bootcamp. Emphasizes the importance of evaluating the ISA and guarantees when choosing a code bootcamp to avoid a disservice.', 'Promotion of Lambda School as a potential option for code bootcamp. Lambda School is promoted as a potential option for a code bootcamp, with a link provided in the description.', 'Humorous reference to a scam call received. Humorously references receiving a scam call while mentioning watching Kitboga.']}], 'duration': 237.304, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/SR1oCu9RhWI/pics/SR1oCu9RhWI1105922.jpg', 'highlights': ["Dev Mountain's program focuses on jobs and education post-program, with a financial structure that allows students to pay once they secure a job.", 'Mention of self-learning software options like Pro-flight classes, Udemy, and Code Academy as alternatives to traditional boot camps.', 'The importance of being self-taught before considering a code bootcamp. It is recommended to be self-taught first before considering a code bootcamp.', 'Advice on evaluating the ISA and guarantees when choosing a code bootcamp. Emphasizes the importance of evaluating the ISA and guarantees when choosing a code bootcamp to avoid a disservice.', 'Promotion of Lambda School as a potential option for code bootcamp. Lambda School is promoted as a potential option for a code bootcamp, with a link provided in the description.', 'Dev Mountain is owned by Strayer University, coexisting as a two-year, four-year university, not providing quick boot camp type classes.', 'Humorous reference to a scam call received. Humorously references receiving a scam call while mentioning watching Kitboga.']}], 'highlights': ['Exposes deceptive sales tactics of code bootcamps, demonstrating the struggle to justify absence of guarantees or income share agreements.', 'Aggressive pressure tactics to collect personal information for spamming purposes are highlighted, depicting unethical practices of code bootcamps.', 'The video captures instances where code bootcamps get caught in lies and slip-ups when attempting to defend their practices, revealing their lack of transparency and credibility.', 'Utah is a one party consent state, allowing recording if one party consents.', 'General Assembly has a prompt indicating calls will be recorded for consent.', 'Speaker researched legality of recording phone calls to ensure consent.', 'Lambda School recommended as the only boot camp that worked for the speaker.', 'Dev Mountain labeled as complete garbage and advised to stay away from.', 'General Assembly advised to stay far away from due to wild claims about income share agreements.', 'Importance of thorough research before choosing a boot camp, including mention of Trilogy Education.', 'Discussion of income share agreements and job placement programs in boot camps, including the Catalyst program.', 'The GA Catalyst program offers a pay later option for students to enroll in courses and work with career services.', 'Participants are supported by the career services team to find a job after the program.', 'Students start paying back at 10% of their monthly salary after being hired.', 'The payment structure includes a 50% increase for a program and a 10% payback cap with a minimum income requirement of $40,000 annually.', "The institution's primary goal is to help students secure software engineering roles.", 'The institution emphasizes its long-standing experience and success in job placement, supported by validated outcomes reports from KPMG.', 'The importance of program duration and curriculum is highlighted, suggesting that shorter programs may not be able to compete with longer programs that offer more comprehensive learning.', 'The disparity in payment terms of income share agreements is discussed, emphasizing the need for a fair payment structure based on job placement and income.', 'The concept of qualified positions in income share agreements is mentioned, indicating that payment is not required if the job obtained is unrelated to the studied field.', 'The $22,500 fee for a 12-week program is deemed excessive, leading to consideration of alternative educational institutions.', 'DevMountain offers a job prep course and assistance with resume and mock interviews as part of its curriculum.', 'The outcomes department and a dedicated department for job-related support are available at DevMountain.', 'The caller inquires about job placement and guarantee at DevMountain.', "The absence of tuition reimbursement or deferred payment until job placement is confirmed, with the potential future implementation of a 'go to school now, pay later' model, and the availability of loan options through Skills Fund or Climb.", 'Uncertainty surrounds the details of loan repayment and the average job salaries after completing the program, with acknowledgment of varying factors such as location and state.', "Dev Mountain's program focuses on jobs and education post-program, with a financial structure that allows students to pay once they secure a job.", 'Mention of self-learning software options like Pro-flight classes, Udemy, and Code Academy as alternatives to traditional boot camps.', 'The importance of being self-taught before considering a code bootcamp. It is recommended to be self-taught first before considering a code bootcamp.', 'Advice on evaluating the ISA and guarantees when choosing a code bootcamp. Emphasizes the importance of evaluating the ISA and guarantees when choosing a code bootcamp to avoid a disservice.', 'Promotion of Lambda School as a potential option for code bootcamp. Lambda School is promoted as a potential option for a code bootcamp, with a link provided in the description.', 'Dev Mountain is owned by Strayer University, coexisting as a two-year, four-year university, not providing quick boot camp type classes.', 'Humorous reference to a scam call received. Humorously references receiving a scam call while mentioning watching Kitboga.']}