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Ava's Smile: Ex Machina's Most Important Moment (Alex Garland) | AI Podcast Clips

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Full episode with Alex Garland (Mar 2020): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-mkuMU428 Clips channel (Lex Clips): https://www.youtube.com/lexclips Main channel (Lex Fridman): https://www.youtube.com/lexfridman (more links below) Podcast full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Podcasts clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/ai Podcast on Apple Podcasts (iTunes): https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Podcast on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 Podcast RSS: https://lexfridman.com/category/ai/feed/ Alex Garland, writer and director of many imaginative and philosophical films from the dreamlike exploration of human self-destruction in the movie Annihilation to the deep questions of consciousness and intelligence raised in the movie Ex Machina, which to me is one of the greatest movies on artificial intelligence ever made. I'm releasing this podcast to coincide with the release of his new series called Devs that will premiere this Thursday, March 5, on Hulu as part of "FX on Hulu". It explores many of the themes this very podcast is about: from quantum mechanics to artificial life to simulation to the modern nature of power in the tech world. Subscribe to this YouTube channel or connect on: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman

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Certainly not with Ex Machina in relation to 2001.', 'start': 50.171, 'duration': 12.835}, {'end': 67.527, 'text': "I'd be pleased if there was, but I'm not sure.", 'start': 63.006, 'duration': 4.521}, {'end': 77.71, 'text': "in a way, there isn't a fundamental discussion of issues to do with AI that isn't already and better dealt with by 2001..", 'start': 67.527, 'duration': 10.183}], 'summary': 'Comparison between ex machina and 2001 regarding impact on ai research.', 'duration': 27.539, 'max_score': 50.171, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/RuSDbIcFgbo/pics/RuSDbIcFgbo50171.jpg'}, {'end': 137.727, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 107.398, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 111.962, 'text': "But there's questions of consciousness, embodiment, and also the same kinds of questions.", 'start': 107.398, 'duration': 4.564}, {'end': 114.244, 'text': 'Because those are my two favorite AI movies.', 'start': 111.982, 'duration': 2.262}, {'end': 124.893, 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of the things that I became aware of with Ex Machina is that the way in which people reacted to the film was very based on what they took into the film.', 'start': 239.844, 'duration': 9.068}, {'end': 256.958, 'text': 'So many people thought Ex Machina was the tale of a sort of evil robot who murders two men and escapes.', 'start': 249.512, 'duration': 7.446}, {'end': 261.802, 'text': "And she has no empathy, for example, because she's a machine.", 'start': 257.538, 'duration': 4.264}], 'summary': "Reactions to ex machina varied based on viewers' perspectives and interpretations of the robot's actions.", 'duration': 21.958, 'max_score': 239.844, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/RuSDbIcFgbo/pics/RuSDbIcFgbo239844.jpg'}, {'end': 308.302, 'src': 'heatmap', 'start': 277.414, 'weight': 0.751, 'content': [{'end': 284.62, 'text': "And there's a moment which it sort of slightly bugs me, but nobody ever has noticed it, and it's years after, so I might 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