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Kate Darling: Social Robotics | Lex Fridman Podcast #98

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Kate Darling is a researcher at MIT, interested in social robotics, robot ethics, and generally how technology intersects with society. She explores the emotional connection between human beings and life-like machines, which for me, is one of the most exciting topics in all of artificial intelligence. Support this podcast by signing up with these sponsors: - ExpressVPN at https://www.expressvpn.com/lexpod - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lex EPISODE LINKS: Kate's Website: http://www.katedarling.org/ Kate's Twitter: https://twitter.com/grok_ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4 Clips playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOeciFP3CBCIEElOJeitOr41 OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 3:31 - Robot ethics 4:36 - Universal Basic Income 6:31 - Mistreating robots 17:17 - Robots teaching us about ourselves 20:27 - Intimate connection with robots 24:29 - Trolley problem and making difficult moral decisions 31:59 - Anthropomorphism 38:09 - Favorite robot 41:19 - Sophia 42:46 - Designing robots for human connection 47:01 - Why is it so hard to build a personal robotics company? 50:03 - Is it possible to fall in love with a robot? 56:39 - Robots displaying consciousness and mortality 58:33 - Manipulation of emotion by companies 1:04:40 - Intellectual property 1:09:23 - Lessons for robotics from parenthood 1:10:41 - Hope for future of robotics CONNECT: - Subscribe to this YouTube channel - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LexFridmanPage - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman

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The discussion covers the ethical use of robotic technology, responsibility for harm, automated weapon systems, privacy and data security, and automation's impact on labor markets.", 'The societal implications of one-on-one relationships with robots and the concept of universal basic income in response to job displacement by automation. The conversation delves into the social issues arising from one-on-one relationships with robots and the proposal of universal basic income as a response to job loss due to automation.', 'The potential for abuse in human-robot interactions and the comparison between violence in video games and potential abuse of robots. 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The speaker believes that once robots reach a certain level of capabilities, there is a gray area in the comparison between robots and humans, and foresees a potential civil rights movement for robots in the future.', 'The importance of relating to entities as a factor in determining their protection is highlighted through the example of the Save the Whales movement. 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think it doesn't just bother me.", 'start': 1058.784, 'duration': 4.101}, {'end': 1075.058, 'text': "I think it's an opportunity for roboticists to help people find the better sides, the angels of their nature, right?", 'start': 1064.546, 'duration': 10.512}, {'end': 1078.181, 'text': "That abuse isn't just a fun side thing.", 'start': 1075.799, 'duration': 2.382}, {'end': 1083.127, 'text': "That's you revealing a dark part that should be hidden deep inside.", 'start': 1078.221, 'duration': 4.906}, {'end': 1086.847, 'text': 'Yeah, I mean you laugh,', 'start': 1084.266, 'duration': 2.581}], 'summary': 'Abuse of robots reveals dark side of human nature, an opportunity for roboticists to help people find their better sides.', 'duration': 35.046, 'max_score': 1051.801, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1051801.jpg'}, {'end': 1167.238, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1129.334, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 1134.919, 'text': 'Some people would say why are we practicing empathy on robots instead of, you know,', 'start': 1129.334, 'duration': 5.585}, {'end': 1139.504, 'text': 'on our fellow humans or on animals that are actually alive and experience the world?', 'start': 1134.919, 'duration': 4.585}, {'end': 1143.568, 'text': "And I don't agree with them because I don't think empathy is a zero sum game.", 'start': 1140.185, 'duration': 3.383}, {'end': 1147.032, 'text': "And I do think that it's a muscle that you can train and that we should be doing that.", 'start': 1143.608, 'duration': 3.424}, {'end': 1149.695, 'text': 'But, um, some people disagree.', 'start': 1147.212, 'duration': 2.483}, {'end': 1152.912, 'text': "So the interesting you've heard.", 'start': 1150.871, 'duration': 2.041}, {'end': 1167.238, 'text': 'you know, raising kids sort of asking them or telling them to be nice to the smart speakers, to Alexa and so on, saying please,', 'start': 1152.912, 'duration': 14.326}], 'summary': 'Empathy can be trained and should be practiced on robots, not a zero-sum game.', 'duration': 37.904, 'max_score': 1129.334, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1129334.jpg'}, {'end': 1285.867, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1262.51, 'weight': 5, 'content': [{'end': 1271.396, 'text': 'They immediately think from a product perspective in the near term is sort of expansion of what pornography is and all that kind of stuff.', 'start': 1262.51, 'duration': 8.886}, {'end': 1278.501, 'text': "Do researchers touch this? Well, that's kind of you to characterize it as, oh, they're thinking rationally about product.", 'start': 1271.616, 'duration': 6.885}, {'end': 1285.867, 'text': 'I feel like sex robots are just such a titillating news hook for people that they become the story.', 'start': 1278.882, 'duration': 6.985}], 'summary': 'Debates on expanding pornography products and rationality of researchers regarding sex robots.', 'duration': 23.357, 'max_score': 1262.51, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1262510.jpg'}], 'start': 878.62, 'title': 'Equality, mortality, and human-robot interaction', 'summary': 'Explores the arbitrariness of human equality and mortality, ethical considerations for animals, and the complexities of human behavior towards robots, including empathy, abuse, and the impact of sex robots, advocating for empathy towards robots to foster better human behavior.', 'chapters': [{'end': 993.737, 'start': 878.62, 'title': 'Equality and mortality in ethics', 'summary': 'Discusses the arbitrariness of human equality and mortality, as well as the ethical considerations and protections for animals, questioning the fundamental rights and criteria for differentiation between humans and other species.', 'duration': 115.117, 'highlights': ['The arbitrary lines drawn in treating animals and the philosophical thought on human uniqueness being speciesism Humans draw arbitrary lines in treating animals and the philosophical thought on human uniqueness being speciesism is discussed, questioning the justification for differentiation between humans and other species.', 'Questioning the fundamental rights and criteria for differentiation between humans and other species The discussion questions the fundamental rights and criteria for differentiation between humans and other species, highlighting the ethical considerations and protections for animals.', 'The connection between mortality and the fundamental first right, and the comparison to treating animals The connection between mortality and the fundamental first right is discussed, along with a comparison to the treatment of animals, raising questions about the ethical considerations and protections for different species.']}, {'end': 1396.113, 'start': 994.517, 'title': 'Exploring human-robot interaction', 'summary': 'Discusses the complexities of human behavior towards robots, touching on empathy, abuse, and the potential impact of sex robots, and the need to practice empathy towards robots as a means of fostering better human behavior.', 'duration': 401.596, 'highlights': ['The abuse of robots reveals the evil in human beings and presents an opportunity for roboticists to help people find the better sides of their nature. The abuse of robots is seen as a reflection of the evil in human beings, offering an opportunity for roboticists to encourage better behavior.', 'There is an opportunity to practice empathy with robots, and empathy should not be considered a zero-sum game, but rather a trainable quality that should be fostered. The discussion emphasizes the opportunity to practice empathy with robots and the belief that empathy is a trainable quality that should be cultivated.', 'The potential impact of sex robots is explored, highlighting the opportunity for meaningful interaction and the need to de-stigmatize the sex industry. The potential impact of sex robots is discussed, emphasizing the potential for meaningful interaction and the suggestion to de-stigmatize the sex industry.']}], 'duration': 517.493, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY878620.jpg', 'highlights': ['The arbitrary lines drawn in treating animals and the philosophical thought on human uniqueness being speciesism', 'Questioning the fundamental rights and criteria for differentiation between humans and other species', 'The connection between mortality and the fundamental first right, and the comparison to treating animals', 'The abuse of robots reveals the evil in human beings and presents an opportunity for roboticists to help people find the better sides of their nature', 'There is an opportunity to practice empathy with robots, and empathy should not be considered a zero-sum game, but rather a trainable quality that should be fostered', 'The potential impact of sex robots is explored, highlighting the opportunity for meaningful interaction and the need to de-stigmatize the sex industry']}, {'end': 2059.076, 'segs': [{'end': 1464.963, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1438.337, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 1445.662, 'text': "Like people, your family doesn't have enough patience to really sit there and listen to who are you really?", 'start': 1438.337, 'duration': 7.325}, {'end': 1450.045, 'text': "And I feel like there's an opportunity to really make that connection with robots.", 'start': 1446.342, 'duration': 3.703}, {'end': 1457.1, 'text': "I just feel like we're complex as humans and we're capable of lots of different types of relationships.", 'start': 1450.777, 'duration': 6.323}, {'end': 1464.963, 'text': "So whether that's, you know, with family members, with friends, with our pets or with robots, I feel like there's space for all of that.", 'start': 1457.86, 'duration': 7.103}], 'summary': 'Robots offer an opportunity to connect deeply due to human complexity and capability for various relationships.', 'duration': 26.626, 'max_score': 1438.337, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1438337.jpg'}, {'end': 1622.914, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1593.435, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 1597.476, 'text': 'because it is exactly what the trolley problem is trying to show,', 'start': 1593.435, 'duration': 4.041}, {'end': 1605.24, 'text': 'which is your first instinct might not be the correct one if you look at rules that then have to apply to everyone and everything.', 'start': 1597.476, 'duration': 7.764}, {'end': 1609.62, 'text': 'So how do we encode these ethical choices in interaction with robots??', 'start': 1605.836, 'duration': 3.784}, {'end': 1611.742, 'text': 'So, for example, autonomous vehicles?', 'start': 1609.64, 'duration': 2.102}, {'end': 1616.788, 'text': 'there is a serious ethical question of do I protect myself??', 'start': 1611.742, 'duration': 5.046}, {'end': 1622.914, 'text': 'Does my life have higher priority than the life of another human being??', 'start': 1619.11, 'duration': 3.804}], 'summary': 'The trolley problem highlights ethical dilemmas in interactions with robots, such as autonomous vehicles, posing questions about prioritizing lives.', 'duration': 29.479, 'max_score': 1593.435, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1593435.jpg'}, {'end': 1845.841, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1800.931, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 1806.735, 'text': "But isn't that what's happening right now? And we're realizing that we don't have a consensus on what's right and wrong.", 'start': 1800.931, 'duration': 5.804}, {'end': 1807.996, 'text': 'You mean in politics in general?', 'start': 1806.775, 'duration': 1.221}, {'end': 1822.042, 'text': "Well, like when we're thinking about these trolley problems and autonomous vehicles and how to program ethics into machines and how to make make AI algorithms fair and equitable.", 'start': 1808.416, 'duration': 13.626}, {'end': 1830.589, 'text': "We're realizing that this is so complicated, and it's complicated in part because there doesn't seem to be a one right answer in any of these cases.", 'start': 1822.102, 'duration': 8.487}, {'end': 1832.45, 'text': 'Do you have a hope for like?', 'start': 1830.729, 'duration': 1.721}, {'end': 1837.975, 'text': 'one of the ideas of The Moral Machine is that crowdsourcing can help us converge towards,', 'start': 1832.45, 'duration': 5.525}, {'end': 1841.137, 'text': 'like democracy can help us converge towards the right answer.', 'start': 1837.975, 'duration': 3.162}, {'end': 1845.841, 'text': 'Do you have a hope for crowdsourcing? Yes and no.', 'start': 1841.157, 'duration': 4.684}], 'summary': 'Ethical dilemmas in ai raise challenges with no clear right answer. crowdsourcing may help converge towards solutions.', 'duration': 44.91, 'max_score': 1800.931, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1800931.jpg'}, {'end': 1958.285, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 1929.431, 'weight': 3, 'content': [{'end': 1935.713, 'text': 'like both engineering perspective and psychology perspective, machine learning perspective in robotics in general.', 'start': 1929.431, 'duration': 6.282}, {'end': 1940.715, 'text': 'Can you step back and define anthropomorphism?', 'start': 1936.834, 'duration': 3.881}, {'end': 1944.897, 'text': 'how you see it in general terms, in your, in your work?', 'start': 1940.715, 'duration': 4.182}, {'end': 1955.283, 'text': 'sure so, anthropomorphism is this tendency that we have to project human-like traits and behaviors and qualities onto non-humans,', 'start': 1945.518, 'duration': 9.765}, {'end': 1958.285, 'text': "and we often see it with animals like we'll.", 'start': 1955.283, 'duration': 3.002}], 'summary': 'Anthropomorphism is the tendency to project human-like traits onto non-humans, commonly observed with animals.', 'duration': 28.854, 'max_score': 1929.431, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1929431.jpg'}], 'start': 1396.113, 'title': 'Robots, ai, and ethical decisions', 'summary': 'Explores robots filling emotional gaps for humans, ethical challenges in programming autonomous vehicles, encoding ethical decisions into ai algorithms, societal standards, potential of crowdsourcing, and anthropomorphism in ai-human interactions.', 'chapters': [{'end': 1715.376, 'start': 1396.113, 'title': 'Robots and human relationships', 'summary': 'Highlights the potential benefits of robots filling emotional and relational gaps for humans, the limitations of human relationships in meeting complex emotional needs, and the ethical challenges in programming autonomous vehicles to make life-and-death decisions.', 'duration': 319.263, 'highlights': ['Robots can fill emotional and relational gaps for humans, providing value in a different way than human relationships. Robots can provide a connection and understanding that may be challenging for humans due to the complexity and richness of human emotions and identities.', 'Human relationships have limitations in meeting complex emotional needs, and it is asking too much of friends, family, and partners to fill certain emotional voids. Human relationships may lack the patience and capacity to fully understand and meet the complex emotional needs and identities of individuals.', 'Ethical challenges in programming autonomous vehicles involve making life-and-death decisions, such as prioritizing the safety of the passenger versus others in the vicinity. Programming autonomous vehicles raises ethical dilemmas regarding decision-making in potential life-threatening scenarios, such as whether to prioritize the safety of the passenger or others.']}, {'end': 2059.076, 'start': 1715.376, 'title': 'Ethical decisions in ai', 'summary': 'Discusses the challenges of encoding ethical decisions into ai algorithms, the complexity of societal standards, the potential of crowdsourcing for convergence, and the concept of anthropomorphism in ai-human interactions.', 'duration': 343.7, 'highlights': ['The complexity of encoding ethics into AI algorithms and societal standards The discussion delves into the challenges of encoding ethical decisions into AI algorithms and the complexity of understanding societal standards in making certain decisions.', 'The potential of crowdsourcing for convergence towards ethical decisions The chapter explores the potential of crowdsourcing to help converge towards ethical decisions, akin to how democracy can lead to converging towards the right answers.', 'The concept of anthropomorphism and its application in AI-human interaction The concept of anthropomorphism is examined, discussing its potential to enrich interactions between AI systems and humans, as well as the challenges and potential applications in engineering and psychology.']}], 'duration': 662.963, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY1396113.jpg', 'highlights': ['Robots can provide a connection and understanding that may be challenging for humans due to the complexity and richness of human emotions and identities.', 'Ethical challenges in programming autonomous vehicles involve making life-and-death decisions, such as prioritizing the safety of the passenger versus others in the vicinity.', 'The potential of crowdsourcing to help converge towards ethical decisions akin to how democracy can lead to converging towards the right answers.', 'The concept of anthropomorphism is examined, discussing its potential to enrich interactions between AI systems and humans, as well as the challenges and potential applications in engineering and psychology.', 'Human relationships may lack the patience and capacity to fully understand and meet the complex emotional needs and identities of individuals.', 'The complexity of encoding ethics into AI algorithms and societal standards.']}, {'end': 2518.724, 'segs': [{'end': 2085.152, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2059.516, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 2071.663, 'text': "That said, I think it's very difficult to you know, really really harness the anthropomorphism with these voice assistants,", 'start': 2059.516, 'duration': 12.147}, {'end': 2076.146, 'text': 'because the voice interface is still very primitive.', 'start': 2071.663, 'duration': 4.483}, {'end': 2085.152, 'text': "And I think that in order to get people to really suspend their disbelief and treat a robot like it's alive, less is sometimes more.", 'start': 2076.306, 'duration': 8.846}], 'summary': 'Voice interface limitations hinder anthropomorphism with voice assistants.', 'duration': 25.636, 'max_score': 2059.516, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2059516.jpg'}, {'end': 2178.882, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2144.488, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 2148.272, 'text': 'What are some good and bad cases of anthropomorphism in your perspective?', 'start': 2144.488, 'duration': 3.784}, {'end': 2151.836, 'text': 'Like, when is it good, when is it bad?', 'start': 2149.453, 'duration': 2.383}, {'end': 2152.816, 'text': 'What are some cases?', 'start': 2152.116, 'duration': 0.7}, {'end': 2157.337, 'text': 'Well, I should start by saying that while design can really enhance the anthropomorphism,', 'start': 2152.836, 'duration': 4.501}, {'end': 2161.418, 'text': "it doesn't take a lot to get people to treat a robot like it's alive.", 'start': 2157.337, 'duration': 4.081}, {'end': 2170.24, 'text': "Over 85% of Roombas have a name which I don't know the numbers for your regular type of vacuum cleaner, but they're not that high right?", 'start': 2162.558, 'duration': 7.682}, {'end': 2173.201, 'text': 'So people will feel bad for their Roomba when it gets stuck.', 'start': 2170.94, 'duration': 2.261}, {'end': 2175.781, 'text': "They'll send it in for repair and wanna get the same one back.", 'start': 2173.241, 'duration': 2.54}, {'end': 2178.882, 'text': 'And that one is not even designed to make you do that.', 'start': 2175.841, 'duration': 3.041}], 'summary': "Anthropomorphism in design can lead to over 85% of roombas being named and treated like they're alive, illustrating its impact and potential drawbacks.", 'duration': 34.394, 'max_score': 2144.488, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2144488.jpg'}, {'end': 2235.058, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2209.708, 'weight': 3, 'content': [{'end': 2215.956, 'text': 'that was deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan with the bomb disposal units that were there.', 'start': 2209.708, 'duration': 6.248}, {'end': 2220.341, 'text': 'And the soldiers became very emotionally attached to the robots.', 'start': 2216.276, 'duration': 4.065}, {'end': 2229.852, 'text': "Wow, um, and that's you know fine, until a soldier risks his life to save a robot which you really don't want.", 'start': 2220.622, 'duration': 9.23}, {'end': 2232.776, 'text': 'but they were treating them like pets, like they would name them.', 'start': 2229.852, 'duration': 2.924}, {'end': 2235.058, 'text': 'they would give them funerals with gun salutes.', 'start': 2232.776, 'duration': 2.282}], 'summary': 'Robots deployed in iraq and afghanistan became emotionally attached to by soldiers, risking lives and receiving funerals.', 'duration': 25.35, 'max_score': 2209.708, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2209708.jpg'}, {'end': 2279.86, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2255.369, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 2263.631, 'text': 'another case for concern is maybe when companies try to leverage the emotional attachment to exploit people.', 'start': 2255.369, 'duration': 8.262}, {'end': 2267.933, 'text': "um so if it's something that's not in the consumer's interest,", 'start': 2263.631, 'duration': 4.302}, {'end': 2276.778, 'text': 'trying to like sell them products or services or exploit an emotional connection to keep them paying for a cloud service for a social robot or something like that might be.', 'start': 2267.933, 'duration': 8.845}, {'end': 2279.86, 'text': "I think that's a little bit concerning as well.", 'start': 2276.778, 'duration': 3.082}], 'summary': 'Companies exploiting emotional attachment to sell products may be concerning.', 'duration': 24.491, 'max_score': 2255.369, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2255369.jpg'}, {'end': 2328.197, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2301.602, 'weight': 5, 'content': [{'end': 2311.148, 'text': 'not, not a anthropomorphic connection, but I mean like uh you, you sit back and say damn, this is an impressive system.', 'start': 2301.602, 'duration': 9.546}, {'end': 2314.344, 'text': 'Wow So two different robots.', 'start': 2312.202, 'duration': 2.142}, {'end': 2323.152, 'text': 'So the, the PLEO baby dinosaur robot that is no longer sold that came out in 2007, that one I was very impressed with.', 'start': 2314.384, 'duration': 8.768}, {'end': 2328.197, 'text': 'It was, but but from an anthropomorphic perspective, I was impressed with how much I bonded with it,', 'start': 2323.212, 'duration': 4.985}], 'summary': 'Impressed with pleo baby dinosaur robot from 2007.', 'duration': 26.595, 'max_score': 2301.602, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2301602.jpg'}], 'start': 2059.516, 'title': 'Anthropomorphism & emotional attachment to robots', 'summary': 'Delves into harnessing anthropomorphism with voice assistants through simple designs, while also exploring emotional attachment to robots, citing instances of over 85% of roombas being named, soldier-robot bonding, and concerns about emotional exploitation.', 'chapters': [{'end': 2161.418, 'start': 2059.516, 'title': 'Anthropomorphism in human-robot interaction', 'summary': 'Discusses the challenges of harnessing anthropomorphism with voice assistants, highlighting the effectiveness of simple designs in creating a sense of interaction and illusion, while also emphasizing the impact of design in enhancing anthropomorphism in human-robot interaction.', 'duration': 101.902, 'highlights': ['The effectiveness of simple designs in creating a sense of interaction and illusion, such as the baby seal robot used with dementia patients, is highlighted, emphasizing the impact of design in enhancing anthropomorphism.', 'The challenges of harnessing anthropomorphism with voice assistants like Alexa and Siri are discussed, with an emphasis on the primitive nature of voice interfaces and the need for robots to not disappoint expectations for interaction.', "The impact of design in enhancing anthropomorphism is emphasized, with the recognition that it doesn't take a lot to get people to treat a robot like it's alive, highlighting the importance of design in human-robot interaction."]}, {'end': 2518.724, 'start': 2162.558, 'title': 'Emotional attachment to robots', 'summary': 'Explores the emotional attachment to robots, including examples of over 85% of roombas being named, soldiers becoming attached to military robots, concerns about emotional exploitation by companies, and personal experiences with robot bonding.', 'duration': 356.166, 'highlights': ['Over 85% of Roombas have been named, indicating a high level of emotional attachment to these robots. The high percentage of Roombas being named reflects a significant emotional connection to these robots.', "Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan became emotionally attached to iRobot's PackBot robots, risking their lives to save them and holding funerals for them, raising concerns about emotional attachment to tools designed for dangerous tasks. The soldiers' emotional attachment to the PackBot robots in Iraq and Afghanistan, to the extent of risking their lives and conducting funerals for them, highlights the potential consequences of emotional attachment to tools meant for hazardous missions.", 'The concern about companies exploiting emotional attachment to robots for financial gain, particularly through selling products or services, raises ethical considerations. The ethical concern of companies leveraging emotional attachment to robots for financial gain, potentially through product sales or services, prompts a critical examination of the ethical implications of emotional exploitation.', 'Personal experiences with bonding with robots, such as the PLEO baby dinosaur robot and Boston Dynamics robots, demonstrate the human tendency to form emotional connections with robotic entities. The personal experiences of bonding with robots, including the PLEO baby dinosaur robot and Boston Dynamics robots, exemplify the human inclination to establish emotional bonds with robotic entities.']}], 'duration': 459.208, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2059516.jpg', 'highlights': ['The challenges of harnessing anthropomorphism with voice assistants like Alexa and Siri are discussed, emphasizing the primitive nature of voice interfaces and the need for robots to not disappoint expectations for interaction.', "The impact of design in enhancing anthropomorphism is emphasized, recognizing that it doesn't take a lot to get people to treat a robot like it's alive, highlighting the importance of design in human-robot interaction.", 'Over 85% of Roombas have been named, indicating a high level of emotional attachment to these robots.', "Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan became emotionally attached to iRobot's PackBot robots, risking their lives to save them and holding funerals for them, raising concerns about emotional attachment to tools designed for dangerous tasks.", 'The concern about companies exploiting emotional attachment to robots for financial gain, particularly through selling products or services, raises ethical considerations.', 'Personal experiences with bonding with robots, such as the PLEO baby dinosaur robot and Boston Dynamics robots, demonstrate the human tendency to form emotional connections with robotic entities.']}, {'end': 2973.577, 'segs': [{'end': 2545.07, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2518.724, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 2527.45, 'text': "is quite a large number of people kind of immediately had a connection and thought that maybe we're far more advanced with robotics than we are,", 'start': 2518.724, 'duration': 8.726}, {'end': 2528.691, 'text': "or actually didn't even think much.", 'start': 2527.45, 'duration': 1.241}, {'end': 2531.953, 'text': 'I was surprised how little people cared.', 'start': 2529.471, 'duration': 2.482}, {'end': 2538.377, 'text': 'that they kind of assumed that, well, of course AI can do this.', 'start': 2533.805, 'duration': 4.572}, {'end': 2545.07, 'text': 'And then if they assume that, I felt they should be more impressed.', 'start': 2540.347, 'duration': 4.723}], 'summary': 'Surprising lack of interest in advanced robotics and ai capabilities.', 'duration': 26.346, 'max_score': 2518.724, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2518724.jpg'}, {'end': 2600.354, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2571.001, 'weight': 5, 'content': [{'end': 2574.223, 'text': 'WALL-E. What do you like about WALL-E?', 'start': 2571.001, 'duration': 3.222}, {'end': 2580.845, 'text': 'The humor, the cuteness, the perception, control systems operating on WALL-E.', 'start': 2574.423, 'duration': 6.422}, {'end': 2583.246, 'text': 'that makes it all work?', 'start': 2580.845, 'duration': 2.401}, {'end': 2583.986, 'text': 'Just in general?', 'start': 2583.266, 'duration': 0.72}, {'end': 2587.108, 'text': 'The design of WALL-E, the robot.', 'start': 2584.567, 'duration': 2.541}, {'end': 2592.37, 'text': 'I think that animators figured out you know, starting in like the 1940s,', 'start': 2587.128, 'duration': 5.242}, {'end': 2600.354, 'text': "how to create characters that don't look real but look like something that's even better than real,", 'start': 2592.37, 'duration': 7.984}], 'summary': "Fans appreciate wall-e's humor, cuteness, and well-designed robot character.", 'duration': 29.353, 'max_score': 2571.001, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2571001.jpg'}, {'end': 2658.837, 'src': 'heatmap', 'start': 2613.204, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 2619.337, 'text': "So it's always playing on some aspect of the human face, right? Often.", 'start': 2613.204, 'duration': 6.133}, {'end': 2621.098, 'text': 'Yeah So big eyes.', 'start': 2619.637, 'duration': 1.461}, {'end': 2629.021, 'text': "Well, I think one of the, one of the first like animations to really play with this was Bambi and they weren't originally going to do that.", 'start': 2621.298, 'duration': 7.723}, {'end': 2632.463, 'text': 'They were originally trying to make the deer look as lifelike as possible.', 'start': 2629.161, 'duration': 3.302}, {'end': 2636.965, 'text': 'Like they brought deer into the studio and had a little zoo there so that the animators could work with them.', 'start': 2632.543, 'duration': 4.422}, {'end': 2644.648, 'text': 'And then at some point they were like Hmm, if we make really big eyes and like a small nose and like big cheeks, kind of more like a baby face,', 'start': 2637.525, 'duration': 7.123}, {'end': 2647.229, 'text': 'then people like it even better than if it looks real.', 'start': 2644.648, 'duration': 2.581}, {'end': 2658.837, 'text': 'Do you think the future of things like Alexa in the home has possibility to take advantage of that, to build on that,', 'start': 2648.424, 'duration': 10.413}], 'summary': 'Bambi animation initially aimed for lifelike deer, but found big-eyed baby face more appealing.', 'duration': 45.633, 'max_score': 2613.204, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2613204.jpg'}, {'end': 2682.865, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2658.837, 'weight': 1, 'content': [{'end': 2666.547, 'text': 'to create these systems that are better than real, that create a close human connection?', 'start': 2658.837, 'duration': 7.71}, {'end': 2676.18, 'text': 'I can pretty much guarantee you, without having any knowledge, that those companies are working on that, on that design behind the scenes.', 'start': 2667.273, 'duration': 8.907}, {'end': 2677.621, 'text': "Like I'm pretty sure.", 'start': 2676.26, 'duration': 1.361}, {'end': 2678.722, 'text': 'I totally disagree with you.', 'start': 2677.661, 'duration': 1.061}, {'end': 2681.044, 'text': "Really? So that's what I'm interested in.", 'start': 2679.102, 'duration': 1.942}, {'end': 2682.865, 'text': "I'd like to build such a company.", 'start': 2681.264, 'duration': 1.601}], 'summary': 'Companies are likely working on creating human-like systems, aiming for better connection.', 'duration': 24.028, 'max_score': 2658.837, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2658837.jpg'}, {'end': 2901.535, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2830.413, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 2836.228, 'text': "Yes, Why do you think it's so hard to create a personal robotics company??", 'start': 2830.413, 'duration': 5.815}, {'end': 2844.531, 'text': 'So, making a business out of essentially something that people would anthropomorphize, have a deep connection with?', 'start': 2836.628, 'duration': 7.903}, {'end': 2845.932, 'text': 'why is it so hard to make it work??', 'start': 2844.531, 'duration': 1.401}, {'end': 2849.053, 'text': 'Is the business case not there, or what is it??', 'start': 2846.432, 'duration': 2.621}, {'end': 2851.434, 'text': "I think it's a number of different things.", 'start': 2849.513, 'duration': 1.921}, {'end': 2855.498, 'text': "I don't think it's going to be this way forever.", 'start': 2852.657, 'duration': 2.841}, {'end': 2865.121, 'text': "I think at this current point in time, it takes so much work to build something that only barely meets people's,", 'start': 2855.778, 'duration': 9.343}, {'end': 2872.363, 'text': 'like minimal expectations because of science fiction and pop culture, giving people this idea that we should be further than we already are.', 'start': 2865.121, 'duration': 7.242}, {'end': 2878.826, 'text': 'Like when people think about a robot assistant in the home, they think about Rosie from the Jetsons or something like that.', 'start': 2872.484, 'duration': 6.342}, {'end': 2885.949, 'text': 'Anki and Jibo did such a beautiful job with the design and getting that interaction just right.', 'start': 2880.206, 'duration': 5.743}, {'end': 2888.67, 'text': 'But I think people just wanted more.', 'start': 2886.429, 'duration': 2.241}, {'end': 2890.07, 'text': 'They wanted more functionality.', 'start': 2888.71, 'duration': 1.36}, {'end': 2901.535, 'text': "I think you're also right that the business case isn't really there because there hasn't been a killer application that's useful enough to get people to adopt the technology in great numbers.", 'start': 2890.09, 'duration': 11.445}], 'summary': 'Challenges in creating personal robotics company due to high expectations, lack of killer application, and minimal functionality.', 'duration': 71.122, 'max_score': 2830.413, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2830413.jpg'}], 'start': 2518.724, 'title': 'Human perception and future of personal robotics', 'summary': 'Delves into human tendency to overestimate robotics due to science fiction influence, and explores the potential, challenges, and business case for personal robotics, emphasizing evolving societal expectations for emotional connection.', 'chapters': [{'end': 2636.965, 'start': 2518.724, 'title': 'Human perception of robotics', 'summary': "Explores the human tendency to overestimate the capabilities of robotics due to science fiction influence and the impact of animators' ability to create endearing non-realistic characters, with a mention of wall-e as a prime example.", 'duration': 118.241, 'highlights': ['The human tendency to overestimate the capabilities of robotics due to science fiction influence.', "The impact of animators' ability to create endearing non-realistic characters, with a mention of WALL-E as a prime example.", "The underestimation of robotics' current capabilities, as evidenced by people's lack of surprise or impressed reactions to AI advancements."]}, {'end': 2973.577, 'start': 2637.525, 'title': 'Future of personal robotics', 'summary': 'Explores the potential of personal robotics, the challenges in creating a close human connection, the business case for personal robotics companies, and the evolving expectations and need for emotional connection in society.', 'duration': 336.052, 'highlights': ['Creating a close human connection through personal robotics and designing systems that are better than real is a potential future possibility, with companies likely working on such designs behind the scenes.', 'The challenges in creating a successful personal robotics company include meeting high expectations influenced by science fiction and pop culture, the lack of a killer application, and the need for a strong emotional connection.', "Anki and Jibo, despite their beautiful design and successful interactions, faced challenges in meeting people's desire for more functionality and a killer application, ultimately struggling with the business case and widespread adoption.", 'The deep societal need for emotional connection and the potential unawareness of this need in contemporary society are highlighted as important factors in the quest for successful personal robotics.']}], 'duration': 454.853, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2518724.jpg', 'highlights': ['The deep societal need for emotional connection and the potential unawareness of this need in contemporary society are highlighted as important factors in the quest for successful personal robotics.', 'Creating a close human connection through personal robotics and designing systems that are better than real is a potential future possibility, with companies likely working on such designs behind the scenes.', 'The challenges in creating a successful personal robotics company include meeting high expectations influenced by science fiction and pop culture, the lack of a killer application, and the need for a strong emotional connection.', 'The human tendency to overestimate the capabilities of robotics due to science fiction influence.', "The underestimation of robotics' current capabilities, as evidenced by people's lack of surprise or impressed reactions to AI advancements.", "The impact of animators' ability to create endearing non-realistic characters, with a mention of WALL-E as a prime example.", "Anki and Jibo, despite their beautiful design and successful interactions, faced challenges in meeting people's desire for more functionality and a killer application, ultimately struggling with the business case and widespread adoption."]}, {'end': 3363.028, 'segs': [{'end': 3020.123, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 2992.789, 'weight': 2, 'content': [{'end': 3000.896, 'text': "It expands more on the rich, deep, unexplored complexity that's all of us weird apes.", 'start': 2992.789, 'duration': 8.107}, {'end': 3003.358, 'text': "Okay I think you're right.", 'start': 3001.636, 'duration': 1.722}, {'end': 3006.661, 'text': "Do you think it's possible to fall in love with a robot? Oh, yeah.", 'start': 3003.458, 'duration': 3.203}, {'end': 3014.607, 'text': "Totally. 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there's still gonna be differences.", 'start': 3137.085, 'duration': 2.48}, {'end': 3141.886, 'text': 'And there were in that movie too, like towards the end.', 'start': 3139.805, 'duration': 2.081}, {'end': 3143.186, 'text': 'Yeah It kinda goes off the rails.', 'start': 3141.926, 'duration': 1.26}, {'end': 3144.086, 'text': "But it's just a movie.", 'start': 3143.206, 'duration': 0.88}, {'end': 3151.49, 'text': 'So the your intuition is, uh, that that Cause cause you kind of said two things right?', 'start': 3144.126, 'duration': 7.364}], 'summary': 'Robots will maintain a distinct relationship, despite human-like advancements.', 'duration': 27.768, 'max_score': 3123.722, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3123722.jpg'}, {'end': 3252.098, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3173.57, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 3180.754, 'text': "It's like how hard is it to satisfy that role of the husband?", 'start': 3173.57, 'duration': 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Is there a negative aspects like..', 'start': 3328.507, 'duration': 7.284}, {'end': 3337.915, 'text': 'Yeah, there can be.', 'start': 3337.054, 'duration': 0.861}, {'end': 3342.737, 'text': "So if you're trying to create a body that's too similar to something that people are familiar with, like.", 'start': 3338.495, 'duration': 4.242}, {'end': 3353.143, 'text': "I have this robot cat at home that Hasbro makes and it's very disturbing to watch because I'm constantly assuming that it's gonna move like a real cat and it doesn't,", 'start': 3342.737, 'duration': 10.406}], 'summary': 'Humans attribute social agency to physical objects, like a robot cat, causing disturbance.', 'duration': 31.78, 'max_score': 3321.363, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3321363.jpg'}], 'start': 2973.577, 'title': 'Loneliness and relationships', 'summary': 'Explores the possibility of falling in love with a robot, emphasizing the fulfillment of loneliness and compares robots with pets. it also discusses the challenges in replicating human relationships with robots, the difficulty in creating human-level intelligence in systems, and anticipates robots to have a pet-like relationship with humans in the next five to 10 years.', 'chapters': [{'end': 3123.722, 'start': 2973.577, 'title': 'Loneliness and relationships', 'summary': 'Explores the possibility of falling in love with a robot and having a long-term committed relationship with it, emphasizing the fulfillment of loneliness and the comparison between robots and pets.', 'duration': 150.145, 'highlights': ['The fulfillment of loneliness through robots and the comparison to pets, rather than human relationships.', 'The exploration of falling in love with a robot and having a committed relationship with it, emphasizing the potential for supplemental fulfillment.', 'The idea of creating something different rather than recreating what we already have, highlighting the potential for a different kind of relationship with robots.']}, {'end': 3363.028, 'start': 3123.722, 'title': 'Challenges in building human-like robots', 'summary': 'Discusses the challenges in replicating human relationships with robots, the difficulty in creating human-level intelligence in systems, and the impact of physical bodies on our perception of robots, anticipating robots to have a pet-like relationship with humans in the next five to 10 years.', 'duration': 239.306, 'highlights': ['Anticipating robots to have a pet-like relationship with humans in the next five to 10 years. The speaker predicts that in five to 10 years, robots will have a relationship with humans similar to the relationship between humans and pets.', 'Discussing the challenges in replicating human relationships with robots. The conversation explores the difficulty in replicating the mystery, tension, and dance of human relationships with robots, beyond just achieving a physical resemblance.', 'Impact of physical bodies on our perception of robots. The discussion highlights that physical resemblance to familiar entities, such as a robot cat, can lead to disappointment and difficulty in treating the robot as alive, raising questions about the negative aspects of creating human-like bodies for robots.', 'Difficulty in creating human-level intelligence in systems. The chapter delves into the challenges of creating systems that exhibit human-level intelligence, discussing how intelligence may not be necessary and can sometimes hinder the goal of creating conversational human-level intelligence in robots.']}], 'duration': 389.451, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY2973577.jpg', 'highlights': ['Anticipating robots to have a pet-like relationship with humans in the next five to 10 years. The speaker predicts that in five to 10 years, robots will have a relationship with humans similar to the relationship between humans and pets.', 'The fulfillment of loneliness through robots and the comparison to pets, rather than human relationships.', 'The exploration of falling in love with a robot and having a committed relationship with it, emphasizing the potential for supplemental fulfillment.', 'The idea of creating something different rather than recreating what we already have, highlighting the potential for a different kind of relationship with robots.', 'Discussing the challenges in replicating human relationships with robots. The conversation explores the difficulty in replicating the mystery, tension, and dance of human relationships with robots, beyond just achieving a physical resemblance.', 'Difficulty in creating human-level intelligence in systems. The chapter delves into the challenges of creating systems that exhibit human-level intelligence, discussing how intelligence may not be necessary and can sometimes hinder the goal of creating conversational human-level intelligence in robots.', 'Impact of physical bodies on our perception of robots. The discussion highlights that physical resemblance to familiar entities, such as a robot cat, can lead to disappointment and difficulty in treating the robot as alive, raising questions about the negative aspects of creating human-like bodies for robots.']}, {'end': 3623.531, 'segs': [{'end': 3411.008, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3380.196, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 3383.998, 'text': "you can get away with much more because they don't have these preformed expectations.", 'start': 3380.196, 'duration': 3.802}, {'end': 3391.856, 'text': 'Yeah, I remember you had a TED Talk or something that clicked for me that nobody actually knows what a dinosaur looks like.', 'start': 3384.591, 'duration': 7.265}, {'end': 3394.898, 'text': 'So you can actually get away with a lot more.', 'start': 3393.096, 'duration': 1.802}, {'end': 3396.839, 'text': 'That was great.', 'start': 3396.278, 'duration': 0.561}, {'end': 3399.861, 'text': 'Do you think it needs..', 'start': 3397.779, 'duration': 2.082}, {'end': 3411.008, 'text': 'So what do you think about consciousness and mortality being displayed in a robot? 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'max_score': 3523.811, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3523811.jpg'}, {'end': 3600.513, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3572.314, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 3582.074, 'text': "Yeah, it's really difficult because We are starting to create technology that relies on data collection to provide functionality.", 'start': 3572.314, 'duration': 9.76}, {'end': 3590.323, 'text': "And there's not a lot of incentive even on the consumer side to curb that because the other problem is that the harms aren't tangible.", 'start': 3582.555, 'duration': 7.768}, {'end': 3600.513, 'text': "They're not really apparent to a lot of people because they kind of trickle down on a societal level and then suddenly we're living in like 1984.", 'start': 3591.084, 'duration': 9.429}], 'summary': 'Challenges in curbing data collection due to lack of tangible harms and societal impact.', 'duration': 28.199, 'max_score': 3572.314, 'thumbnail': 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dystopian outcomes.']}, {'end': 4346.669, 'segs': [{'end': 3678.665, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3623.591, 'weight': 0, 'content': [{'end': 3625.312, 'text': 'And so I can just easily order it again.', 'start': 3623.591, 'duration': 1.721}, {'end': 3629.394, 'text': "So I don't have any incentive to like ask a lawmaker to curb that.", 'start': 3625.352, 'duration': 4.042}, {'end': 3639.398, 'text': 'But when I think about that data then being used against, you know, low income people to target them for, you know scammy loans or education programs,', 'start': 3629.454, 'duration': 9.944}, {'end': 3646.962, 'text': "that's then a societal effect that I think is very severe and you know legislators should be thinking about.", 'start': 3639.398, 'duration': 7.564}, {'end': 3648.883, 'text': 'But yeah, the gray area is..', 'start': 3647.458, 'duration': 1.425}, {'end': 3659.239, 'text': 'the removing ourselves from consideration of explicitly defining objectives and more saying well,', 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market doesn't seem to work because of this information asymmetry.", 'start': 3709.659, 'duration': 5.386}, {'end': 3719.507, 'text': "But it's hard to know how to, so say you were trying to do the right thing.", 'start': 3715.245, 'duration': 4.262}, {'end': 3727.93, 'text': "I guess what I'm trying to say is it's not obvious for these companies what the good thing for society is to do.", 'start': 3720.787, 'duration': 7.143}, {'end': 3736.373, 'text': "Like, I don't think they sit there with, I don't know, with a glass of wine and a cat, like petting a cat, evil cat.", 'start': 3728.29, 'duration': 8.083}], 'summary': 'Challenges of free market due to information asymmetry and uncertain societal impact for companies.', 'duration': 29.417, 'max_score': 3706.956, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3706956.jpg'}, {'end': 3778.03, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3751.189, 'weight': 3, 'content': [{'end': 3758.597, 'text': 'Like that because Google, Facebook, have so much cash That they actually, especially Facebook,', 'start': 3751.189, 'duration': 7.408}, {'end': 3761.879, 'text': 'would significantly benefit from making decisions that are good for society.', 'start': 3758.597, 'duration': 3.282}, {'end': 3767.463, 'text': "It's good for their brand, right? But I don't know if they know what's good for society.", 'start': 3761.919, 'duration': 5.544}, {'end': 3778.03, 'text': "I don't think we know what's good for society in terms of how we manage the conversation on Twitter.", 'start': 3767.483, 'duration': 10.547}], 'summary': "Google and facebook have significant cash reserves, which could benefit society if used wisely, but it's uncertain if they know what's best.", 'duration': 26.841, 'max_score': 3751.189, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3751189.jpg'}, {'end': 3825.597, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3802.559, 'weight': 4, 'content': [{'end': 3810.027, 'text': "which is that I don't think that companies who are reaching out to ethicists and trying to create interdisciplinary ethics boards,", 'start': 3802.559, 'duration': 7.468}, {'end': 3815.732, 'text': "I don't think that that's totally just trying to whitewash the problem so that they look like they've done something.", 'start': 3810.027, 'duration': 5.705}, {'end': 3821.515, 'text': 'I think that a lot of companies actually do, like you say, care about what the right answer is.', 'start': 3815.772, 'duration': 5.743}, {'end': 3825.597, 'text': "They don't know what that is, and they're trying to find people to help them find them.", 'start': 3821.575, 'duration': 4.022}], 'summary': 'Companies seek ethicists for interdisciplinary ethics boards to genuinely seek the right answers.', 'duration': 23.038, 'max_score': 3802.559, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3802559.jpg'}, {'end': 3981.208, 'src': 'embed', 'start': 3955.327, 'weight': 5, 'content': [{'end': 3963.236, 'text': "What are your thoughts in general on intellectual property in this weird age of software, AI, robotics? 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me to compare.", 'start': 4195.501, 'duration': 8.722}, {'end': 4211.728, 'text': 'But what is interesting to me is how these systems are going to shape the world that he grows up in.', 'start': 4205.403, 'duration': 6.325}, {'end': 4222.422, 'text': "And so I'm even more concerned about the societal effects of developing systems that rely on massive amounts of data collection, for example.", 'start': 4211.808, 'duration': 10.614}], 'summary': "Ai systems' impact on society is a concern, not comparison.", 'duration': 26.921, 'max_score': 4195.501, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY4195501.jpg'}], 'start': 3623.591, 'title': 'Ethical considerations in technology', 'summary': 'Delves into societal effects of technology, challenges in defining objectives in social networks, ethical considerations in decision-making for companies in the context of capitalism and information asymmetry, interdisciplinary ethics boards, intellectual property challenges in software and ai, and the potential societal impacts of robotics and ai development, emphasizing the need for more transparency and better regulations.', 'chapters': [{'end': 3802.559, 'start': 3623.591, 'title': 'Social responsibility in technology', 'summary': 'Discusses the societal effects of technology, the challenges of defining objectives in social networks, and the ethical considerations in decision-making for companies, particularly in the context of capitalism and information asymmetry.', 'duration': 178.968, 'highlights': ['The societal effects of technology on low-income individuals being targeted for scammy loans or education programs is a severe concern that legislators should address.', 'The challenge of defining objectives in social networks and the indirect responsibility of companies in maximizing engagement while facing ethical dilemmas.', "The discussion of companies acting in their own interests rather than in the interests of people, the limitations of the completely free market due to information asymmetry, and the difficulty in determining the 'good thing' for society.", 'The potential benefits for companies like Google and Facebook in making decisions that are good for society, the uncertainty in determining what is good for society, and ethical considerations in designing technology such as emotionally manipulating users for a deep connection with AI.']}, {'end': 4346.669, 'start': 3802.559, 'title': 'Ethics in technology and intellectual property', 'summary': 'Discusses the importance of interdisciplinary ethics boards in companies and policymaking, the challenges of intellectual property in software and ai, and the potential societal impacts of robotics and ai development, emphasizing the need for more transparency and better regulations.', 'duration': 544.11, 'highlights': ['The importance of interdisciplinary ethics boards in companies and policymaking Companies are seeking help from ethicists and creating interdisciplinary ethics boards to navigate ethical challenges in technology, showing a genuine interest in finding the right answers.', 'Challenges of intellectual property in software and AI The current intellectual property system is inadequate for software and AI, with patents being costly and time-consuming, and copyright providing limited protection, indicating the need for improved regulations.', 'Potential societal impacts of robotics and AI development The speaker expresses concerns about the societal effects of AI systems relying on massive data collection and hopes for the development of social robots that go beyond basic virtual assistants like Alexa.']}], 'duration': 723.078, 'thumbnail': 'https://coursnap.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com/video-capture/7KTbEn7PiaY/pics/7KTbEn7PiaY3623591.jpg', 'highlights': ['The societal effects of technology on low-income individuals being targeted for scammy loans or education programs is a severe concern that legislators should address.', 'The challenge of defining objectives in social networks and the indirect responsibility of companies in maximizing engagement while facing ethical dilemmas.', "The discussion of companies acting in their own interests rather than in the interests of people, the limitations of the completely free market due to information asymmetry, and the difficulty in determining the 'good thing' for society.", 'The potential benefits for companies like Google and Facebook in making decisions that are good for society, the uncertainty in determining what is good for society, and ethical considerations in designing technology such as emotionally manipulating users for a deep connection with AI.', 'The importance of interdisciplinary ethics boards in companies and policymaking Companies are seeking help from ethicists and creating interdisciplinary ethics boards to navigate ethical challenges in technology, showing a genuine interest in finding the right answers.', 'Challenges of intellectual property in software and AI The current intellectual property system is inadequate for software and AI, with patents being costly and time-consuming, and copyright providing limited protection, indicating the need for improved regulations.', 'Potential societal impacts of robotics and AI development The speaker expresses concerns about the societal effects of AI systems relying on massive data collection and hopes for the development of social robots that go beyond basic virtual assistants like Alexa.']}], 'highlights': ['Kate Darling, MIT researcher, explores emotional connection between humans and lifelike machines.', 'The potential ethical issues and societal impact of robots, including concerns about automated weapon systems, privacy, data security, and the potential impact on labor markets.', 'The arbitrary lines drawn in treating animals and the philosophical thought on human uniqueness being speciesism', 'Robots can provide a connection and understanding that may be challenging for humans due to the complexity and richness of human emotions and identities.', 'The challenges of harnessing anthropomorphism with voice assistants like Alexa and Siri are discussed, emphasizing the primitive nature of voice interfaces and the need for robots to not disappoint expectations for interaction.', 'The deep societal need for emotional connection and the potential unawareness of this need in contemporary society are highlighted as important factors in the quest for successful personal robotics.', 'Anticipating robots to have a pet-like relationship with humans in the next five to 10 years. The speaker predicts that in five to 10 years, robots will have a relationship with humans similar to the relationship between humans and pets.', "Using unfamiliar objects allows for greater creative freedom, as people don't have preformed expectations.", 'The societal effects of technology on low-income individuals being targeted for scammy loans or education programs is a severe concern that legislators should address.', 'The importance of interdisciplinary ethics boards in companies and policymaking Companies are seeking help from ethicists and creating interdisciplinary ethics boards to navigate ethical challenges in technology, showing a genuine interest in finding the right answers.']}